Silly Rated People jobs/prices...bit of a chuckle for friday.

[LlandrilloSpark]

Still a member of Rated People I decided I'd start a thread with some of the ridiculous jobs that come through, poor descriptions & silly prices.

Hows this for starters, looks like he needs a new earth rod and main bonding, supplied, installed & tested for under £100 :nonod:

• 13:14 08-02-2013
• Lead Price£6.10
• BudgetUnder £100
• LocationChester
• Distance38.6 miles

• Electrical Inspecting / Testing
• need a new earthing rod? and the earth rod on water pipes

 

[trev]

Not rated people but I gave a price for a rewire and the gadgie told me he was expecting about £850-900. This was a 4 bed detatched with about half a million points.

 

[Dohnut]

I signed up for the free trail to try and get more work around where I live but cant see me buying any of the jobs as I've found like you that people have no idea what a sensible price is for the work we do.

Here's good example-

Need 7 light changing and 10 down lighters fitted ASAP for under £100

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

I was tempted to spend £6 on a lead one day just to tell a guy how much of an idiot he was!, wanted 10 spots supplied and fitted for under £100 lol

 

[trev]

You can get LEDs from China for 5p a pop mate, maybe he was thinking of them 50p for the kit, a few quid for cable and the rest for fitting em

 

[i=p/u]

And do you think someone will do these jobs ? No.

Is there a signing up fee or just buy leads you like.

 

[funkymonkeytwo]

One yesterday Rewire 3 bed semi lived in £1000 and they even put on there description in capital letters there budget is max £100 0 I wanted to buy the lead just to tell them that's what materials would cost lol, one today supply and install recessed led downlights to living room and study budget £100 do these people not look at the price of materials these days or are they just chancres looking for cowboys to do a crap job

 

[Dohnut]

And do you think someone will do these jobs ? No.

Is there a signing up fee or just buy leads you like.

You get a 2 months free trail but after that I think you pay £40+vat a quarter as well as buying the leads.

 

[i=p/u]

And do you have to pay for lead say £6out of £100 job price

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

Yes, on a 3k rewire it's about £50!

 

[Dohnut]

And do you have to pay for lead say £6out of £100 job price

Jobs under £100 = £4.70 + vat to buy the lead.
Jobs under £500 = 12.40 +vat to buy the lead.

And so on.

 

[Dave_]

I use my builder and it's excellent!

 

[thelondonway]

I use my builder and it's excellent!

dont think its a case of the customers have no sense of priceing it the fact rated people make it compulsary to put a budget in and £100 is the lowest they do

 

[ajdavies22]

I joined rated people 2 weeks ago for the free trial, and every single job that I've had through via text has made me chuckle to myself! I think it's an absolute waste of time, there's not one job on there worth doing.

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

I joined rated people 2 weeks ago for the free trial, and every single job that I've had through via text has made me chuckle to myself! I think it's an absolute waste of time, there's not one job on there worth doing.

Ive had 16 jobs in two years, done very very well from it, 4 rewires, nothing under £500, out of 19 leads bought, won 16

 

[Andy78]

Just bought my first lead this morning. I'm on the free trial to see how it goes.
A mate of mine recommended it to me. He is still in his free trial and has won 4 jobs so far.
Something he has found already is that a lot of people put down a £100 job because they have no idea what it will cost, and don't want to put tradesmen off with expensive leads. He secured a £100 lead last week that he quoted at £450. So it's maybe worth reading between the lines of some of the cheaper ones.

 

[Josh.S.]

It's a joke. Looking at materials and then guessing a reasonable price is all people do. Always around the £100 mark people are willing to pay........ I'd like a Ferrari for £100 lol

 

[Robert Turnbull]

I signed up for the trial did a £210 job last weekend 3 hour £20 materials

I find round here people are buying the leads within 1 minute

I have bought 5
4 I got credit back as they didn't answer or had someone coming

Quoted 1 and got that

It looks like they only worth buying if you get them quick and call straight away and go price ASAP and if its a small job try do it there and then

 

[Robert Turnbull]

Job type: Lighting & Power - Internal
Location: CM195RA
Approx Budget: Under £1,000
Price: £20.10 + VAT
Description: i'm a fully qualified electrician, with a good experiance , i do many electric jobs, as wire ,or rewire , change fitting, move and add lights or sockets,fit or change bells,,, i ll be so happy if i i get any chance to show any one that i cann make his wishes true, also i dont mind if i discuss with any client , at any time about any thing.


IDIOT

 

[daiplayer]

Trouble is it costs nothing for the client to punch it into rated people . then come up with a mini budget.
its the electrician that has to pay ,
****es me off

 

[grantr37]

Job type: Lighting & Power - Internal
Location: CM195RA
Approx Budget: Under £1,000
Price: £20.10 + VAT
Description: i'm a fully qualified electrician, with a good experiance , i do many electric jobs, as wire ,or rewire , change fitting, move and add lights or sockets,fit or change bells,,, i ll be so happy if i i get any chance to show any one that i cann make his wishes true, also i dont mind if i discuss with any client , at any time about any thing.


IDIOT

.......................................Polish me thinks

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Ive had 16 jobs in two years, done very very well from it, 4 rewires, nothing under £500, out of 19 leads bought, won 16

You've had all the good jobs! Its your fault!!!

 

[Brightspark2]

Trouble is it costs nothing for the client to punch it into rated people . then come up with a mini budget.
its the electrician that has to pay ,
****es me off

I dont think it would work of the client had to pay instead...

 

[Andy78]

I think some sparks want to add the cost of lost leads onto their jobs.
My mate went to a rated people job where the sparks that quoted before him wanted £65/hour for fault finding on a domestic job !

 

[Englishsparks]

I think some sparks want to add the cost of lost leads onto their jobs.
My mate went to a rated people job where the sparks that quoted before him wanted £65/hour for fault finding on a domestic job !

Isnt that what we all do? Add the cost on!

Surely we are all in business to make a profit?

If I was to use such a scheme. Wich I definitely won't be! Surely the calculation for the hourly rate would be as follows

Cost of buying the lead.
+ hourly rate
+ materials
+ mark up on materials
+ vat if registered

= cost to customer


From how I read your reply above, is that the spark should not charge the cost of buying the lead.

So effectively he will be dropping his price.


That is stupid and no way to run a business

 

[Andy78]

No I was insinuating that at £65 an hour he was not just charging for that lead, but for the previous 10 that he bought and didn't get.
Round here that is a pretty extortionate rate.

 

[Englishsparks]

Ok. Know I understand.

Well unfortunately that is what will happen. It's not greed, but a fact that he will need to cover his costs somewhere.


Personnaly I don't like the idea of paying for a job lead, especially if your not on a def winner. I had them contact me the other day told them where to go.

I like the idea of recommendations, local advertising, village mags etc.

That way you mostly get genuine customers, that aren't trying to rip you off.

 

[Andy78]

Yes, i'm with you totally on the usual methods of promotion. I'm just giving this a go while it's free for a couple of months, and is benefiting from TV advertising at the moment. Looking at the prices of leads though, I really can't see me carrying it on after the trial unless I'm getting steady work. And at only one available lead in my area in the last 5 days, I'm not going to be.

 

[Englishsparks]

Just be carefully!

Don't forget that the so called customers can rate you to.

One bad report and it will be like bse, salmonella in eggs, and the horse saga.

I also recon that around 80% of the blame i usually with the customer expecting more and more for less co and not knowing what they really want.

Bad communications!

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

on the flip side, Ive been chasing a women to answer her phone for 3 days, I was the only one to buy a £7 lead for £250 budget for an EICR for a 3bed, I could do it for £150 but she wont answer so I guess im going to have to claim that one back

 

[SPARTYKUS]

£65 for the first hour is probably quite reasonable in some parts of the country.

 

[i=p/u]

That's crazy paying for a lead and if you don't get it , you don't get reimbursed . Crazy..

 

[telectrix]

you get credited for a lead that you have bought but can't quote on, due to not being able to contact customer, whatever. the secret is to get credit for a £5 lead then use that credit to buy a £25 lead.

 

[i=p/u]

Ok sounds French , but so say you apply for 5 leads @£5 and dont win any work you then buy £25 lead then .

Can anyone join rated people??

 

[oldtimer]

I refuse to entertain this nonsense as I have had them Rated and Service magic to join I also tell customers that cheap is not always best and that they end up paying for Rated costs through the job by the guy cutting corners but this will attract guys who are trying to enter the sector thing is they are just middle men plain and simple

 

[Robert Turnbull]

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I seam to Get a lot that dont answer.

As long as I get a credit it's all good though.

My builder on the other hand haven't even managed to get short listed on a job.

But in the plus side a few savvy clients have googled my company and got me though the website after seeing it on my builder.

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

Had 6 of my builder, I prefer it tbh

 

[SPARTYKUS]

I refuse to entertain this nonsense as I have had them Rated and Service magic to join I also tell customers that cheap is not always best and that they end up paying for Rated costs through the job by the guy cutting corners but this will attract guys who are trying to enter the sector thing is they are just middle men plain and simple

Middlemen.

just like the schemes!!!!

all robbers. Achievers of nothing.

"What did you do at work today?"

sat in the middle of someone that wanted something and someone that could do something and added value of precisely zero and charged for it.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

Had 6 of my builder, I prefer it tbh

Do you send people a quote or a message.

I've replied to 15 and not even been short listed.

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

Always a message first, I tell them if they send me a rough spec I can do an Estimate but if they
Prefer a fixed quote I can make a site visit, I always speak personally with the customer before putting in a price

 

[Robert Turnbull]

Yeah that's what I try to do. Don't like giving a price for something when I have a one line description.

Maybe I need to script a better message.

Just having a look at the local jobs and the people expressing interest and some have over 100 jobs completed.

 

[Des 56]

I can understand people having to use these sites,but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth that they even exist,especially so uncontrolled

I would bracket them alongside agencies,they have become a necessary evil inflicted on trades and the comparison with leeches preying on reluctant victims is deserving,a pefect example of these obnoxious economic times

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

Just remember though, some use My Builder to list "replacing a damaged socket" as a job!, so they will get feedback for that.