spare socket

[rapidrich]

hi just a quicky i have to put a spare in a living room but can not get access from above plus have to hide the wireing wich is the best way of going about it?

 

[grandad]

back to back if a socket is on the other side of the wall, or get your lump hammer and bolster and start chasing

 

[adamh]

im guessing you have a concrete floor? another way of gettin the cable there would be to pull the skirting board off

 

[rapidrich]

cant go back to back socket is also the other side of the room would behind the skirting board be ok i was a not sure about this with the skirting being wood (flamable)

 

[revolt3k]

im guessing you have a concrete floor? another way of gettin the cable there would be to pull the skirting board off

Can you run cables behind skiting boards?
I thought you couldnt due to it not being a cable zone, and also too much rish of being drilled, screwed through when joiner fixes them.

 

[rapidrich]

i would of thought that to?

 

[boatnik1]

Replace skirting with one purpose designed with a cable conduit built in.

 

[matt456]

Replace skirting with one purpose designed with a cable conduit built in.

shine a light thats a bit extreme!

 

[Guest123]

Skirting trunking???

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/UVSLSX.JPG

 

[boatnik1]

shine a light thats a bit extreme!

Wot? Did someone say there was a budget on this or is a proper job required.

 

[rapidrich]

a proper job but i need to make minimal mess they cant realy afford to redecorate every think

 

[electro]

I have the ideal installation and you don't even have to be part p registered, plus no cert required.




use an extension lead get a black one and tuck it in next to the skirting, you will hardly notice it and it will not mess up your decoration nor will it break the bank

 

[Mac]

If there is no other way round it,can't you chase the floor

 

[Guest123]

I have the ideal installation and you don't even have to be part p registered, plus no cert required.




use an extension lead get a black one and tuck it in next to the skirting, you will hardly notice it and it will not mess up your decoration nor will it break the bank

 

[electro]

Lenny always here to Help.....

 

[Guest123]

Like your style.

 

[grandad]

100mm galv trunking across the ceiling and galv conduit down the wall. not pretty but it'll last a lifetime

 

[electro]

How about armoured cable and cable tray, or better still get the dno/rec to put a new supply in and fit new board with rcbo and one socket you could put it on a radial as there is only one socket..

 

[Guest123]

Ok guys, that'll do. Lets not forget the OP had a genuine query.

 

[electro]

hi


Sorry Chaps for diverting, for me its a proper job or nothing putting cables behind skirting is a big no no, if it cant be done properly and you have concerns about the decoration I would go for the extension lead, us sparkies tend to over complicate things.


regards

 

[grandad]

your right, musn't get silly

 

[Spudnik]

And no you should NOT run any cables behind skirting board.

Your only other option is to use some mini trunking run around the top of the skirting from an existing socket with a 13A plug top and some 1.5mm 3 core flex to a twin socket, surface mounted.

Not ideal or the most attractive but if budget and access is an issue.

 

[kung]

Could use d-trunking blends in nice with skirting !
Regards
Kung.

 

[grandad]

just got a catalogue from ELECTRICFIX part of SCREWFIX

they do a pretty good range of trunking for skirting, pricey but may solve the problem as KUNG says

 

[matt456]

in an office maybe but in a house

 

[rapidrich]

thanx for all the comments but basicly im goin to tell my boss and his fussy mrs its tough luck about the decor

 

[Spudnik]

thanx for all the comments but basicly im goin to tell my boss and his fussy mrs its tough luck about the decor

You are catching on quick Rich!

Good luck mate.

 

[adamh]

fair comments but how do you think the cables get to a socket when you do have access from under the floor? behind the skirting or by magic? it would only be a fire hazard if you screwed the face to the skirting without a b/box! correct me if im wrong but would behind the skirting still be a prescribed zone? and even so with it being buried less than 50mm from the surface it would also need rcd protection so if sum 1 is stupid enuff to put a nail or screw thru a skirting board without checking whats behind thats their problem i have done my job and in line with the big red book

 

[Spudnik]

fair comments but how do you think the cables get to a socket when you do have access from under the floor? behind the skirting or by magic? it would only be a fire hazard if you screwed the face to the skirting without a b/box! correct me if im wrong but would behind the skirting still be a prescribed zone? and even so with it being buried less than 50mm from the surface it would also need rcd protection so if sum 1 is stupid enuff to put a nail or screw thru a skirting board without checking whats behind thats their problem i have done my job and in line with the big red book

Did you read the entire post?

We are saying that cables should not be run along behind the skirting board, not coming up from under the floor and going behind the skirting.

 

[adamh]

yeh i did but i had just got in, i admit its not my 1st choice for cable routing and infacts its something 1 of my old bosses used to do if i did it half the plaster would probably come with it but if its on an rcd and you cant see another way i dont see the problem

 

[Spudnik]

I know what you are saying but behind skirting boards is not a permitted zone (i think).

 

[adamh]

no its not i did check after reading the posts

 

[Spudnik]

no its not i did check after reading the posts

Ah good.

I have left my books somewhere and cant find em

 

[electro]

fair comments but how do you think the cables get to a socket when you do have access from under the floor? behind the skirting or by magic? it would only be a fire hazard if you screwed the face to the skirting without a b/box! correct me if im wrong but would behind the skirting still be a prescribed zone? and even so with it being buried less than 50mm from the surface it would also need rcd protection so if sum 1 is stupid enuff to put a nail or screw thru a skirting board without checking whats behind thats their problem i have done my job and in line with the big red book

Hi


lets clear this up behind a skirting board has never been a cable zone nor will it ever be. Some scary posts, I here a lot of this its on a RCD so don't worry, RCD are additional protection not a back up if it goes wrong.


regards

 

[adamh]

i'm 24 ill do what i want

 

[Mark.W]

RapidRich

How far does the socket have to be from the other socket already in the room?
Regs state that you can chase a wall horizontally up to a 6th of the thickness of the wall. I know it's not ideal but it is another option.

Regards
Mark

 

[kung]

in an office maybe but in a house

Read the original posts !
I know the best way is to chase in but if not an option then if you use trunking d-trunking could be better !

 

[Mark.W]

Kung

Just had a look at the D-trunking, and it looks pretty good mate. Much easier than chasing!!

Mark

 

[electro]

i'm 24 ill do what i want

Hi


Just checked with our legal department and being 24 does not stand up in court.....


Regards

 

[kung]

Kung

Just had a look at the D-trunking, and it looks pretty good mate. Much easier than chasing!!

Mark

Yes Mark TLC is quite good you can also get the D-LINE accessory boxes as well that work quite well !
Regards
Kung.