The DPC of the draft 18th edition of BS 7671

[Midwest]

I'm patiently sat waiting for the Draft for Public Consultation to come out, so I can have a right little chuckle.

The bsi web site says its due for release at the close of play today.

Just need to think where I can borrow the money for the course, exam and books.

If you want to have a butchers, someone posted this link a while ago;

18th Edition of BS 7671: send us your feedback - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/64/dpc/index.cfm

 

[Pete999]

I'm patiently sat waiting for the Draft for Public Consultation to come out, so I can have a right little chuckle.

The bsi web site says its due for release at the close of play today.

Just need to think where I can borrow the money for the course, exam and books.

If you want to have a butchers, someone posted this link a while ago;

18th Edition of BS 7671: send us your feedback - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/64/dpc/index.cfm

Thanks Middy something to help me sleep tonight, seriously cheers

 

[Midwest]

Thanks Middy something to help me sleep tonight, seriously cheers

Think it's gonna give me nightmares! Can't take the credit for the link, that was someone else. I'm just wondering what to do with all the old books, they're not exactly Classic Fiction.

 

[davesparks]

The draft isn't up there yet.

I hope as many electricians as possible read it and make good sensible comments which might actually get considered by the committee.

 

[Midwest]

The draft isn't up there yet.

I hope as many electricians as possible read it and make good sensible comments which might actually get considered by the committee.

It's set for release by the end of today, I've clicked the tick box to be emailed when its published. Pensively checking my inbox. Need something to read on holiday.

 

[davesparks]

I'm just concerned that electricians won't bother to read it, comment on it or will submit unhelpful comments that will just get ignored.
This is an opportunity to try and head off any particularly bad changes, Andy maybe even get them to consider fixing some of the crap that's in there at the moment.

 

[Pete999]

It's set for release by the end of today, I've clicked the tick box to be emailed when its published. Pensively checking my inbox. Need something to read on holiday.

Which box I can't find one.

 

[Midwest]

Which box I can't find one.

If you search for BS 7671 on the bsi web site (once registered), click BS 7671 which should display the DPC. There's a box to tick on the right marked 'Follow'.

 

[jaydub]

Is it known when the 18th will be officially released yet?

 

[Midwest]

If you click the link #1.

PS July 2018 ish

 

[jaydub]

Thanks Midwest

 

[Midwest]

Sod it, I'm grabbing a stiff G&T, while I wait. Could be a long wait.

 

[Midwest]

The draft isn't up there yet.

I hope as many electricians as possible read it and make good sensible comments which might actually get considered by the committee.

Wot about not putting BS 1363 sockets on lighting circuits?

 

[westward10]

Delete.

 

[Midwest]

Delete.

Don't be coy Westie

 

[Midwest]

Gonna give em ten more minutes, then my company closes for the summer shut down.

 

[Pete999]

Delete.

Yes come on give, Westy

 

[westward10]

Don't be coy Westie

I was responding to #13 then realised I had misread it

 

[Midwest]

That's it, not waiting anymore, gins run out. I'm orrfff. They can stick their stupid DPC, probably load of nonsense anyway.

 

[SparkyChick]

It's delayed until close of play Monday 5th June due to technical issues.

 

[davesparks]

It's delayed until close of play Monday 5th June due to technical issues.

Yeah, their wonderful new arc fault disconnecting device has tripped and nobody can work out why.

 

[Ian1981]

My advice is don't buy the book when it first comes out if you don't have too as it will probably have errors in it, at least the on site guide did and guidance note 3

 

[Midwest]

It's delayed until close of play Monday 5th June due to technical issues.

Bunch of lite weights. Bet they'll have another excuse Monday. I'm gonna read something else on holiday.

 

[The Ghost]

I pay for a digital subscription that will auto update anything they put out including BS7671 GN1-8 and a few more.

 

[Ian1981]

I pay for a digital subscription that will auto update anything they put out including BS7671 GN1-8 and a few more.

How much does that cost if you don't mind me asking?

 

[SparkyChick]

How much does that cost if you don't mind me asking?

I've just been looking... starts at £63+VAT and goes up to £368+VAT... per year.

Wiring Regulations digital subscription: Bronze package - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-regulations/digital/packages.cfm

 

[The Ghost]

£260

How much

 

[SparkyChick]

£260

Is that a discounted member's price?

 

[The Ghost]

discounted

Nay

 

[The Ghost]

As the principal subscriber I can invite other people on to my sub. I did this with a few electricians even offerred @Rpa07 to come in, but he didn't, but anyway got most of it paid for. I let people who work for me (improvers) access it as well. It is sterling really.

 

[SparkyChick]

Would you mind posting a link to the page where you can subscribe?

 

[The Ghost]

link

Avec plaisir Mdme. Electrical Standards Plus - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-regulations/digital/

 

[Richard Burns]

Hmm 83 (sorry 79 now) days to comment and 254 days before they start to resolve the comments, just 63 days before it is published.
How much attention are they going to be paying to the comments?

That is not to say you should not comment, it is well worth making sensible and strong reports about the new approaches that we will find out about on Monday night.

 

[Midwest]

£260

Being a cheap skate, all I need is the latest edition of BS 7671 and possibly the OSG, so too expensive for me.

 

[SparkyChick]

Avec plaisir Mdme. Electrical Standards Plus - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-regulations/digital/

Merci Monsieur

The prices have gone up as that's the page I was looking at.

 

[Midwest]

Courses, the cheapest way to gain qualification?

When I did the 17th, spent £400 odd, to spend the weekend with some bloke reading out bits of BS 7671, handing out some Q&A's, bit of discussion, followed by C&G on-line exam. I'd be hard pushed to justify that to my picky customers.

 

[The Ghost]

justify that to my picky customers

Picky customers who don't care you are not up to date? Not very picky are they.

 

[Dave OCD]

Picky customers who don't care you are not up to date? Not very picky are they.

Actually that's the trouble, a lot of customers really wouldn't care and be far more interested in getting work done as cheaply as possible, but that sort are best avoided.

 

[The Ghost]

best avoided

Yeh I am not interested in customers who want cheap, I only do quality installation and surprisingly there are more customers who want a job done properly than not. Quite a lot of people (some do not) want their electrics safe and properly done and do worry about it.

 

[Octopus]

I'm just concerned that electricians won't bother to read it, comment on it or will submit unhelpful comments that will just get ignored.
This is an opportunity to try and head off any particularly bad changes, Andy maybe even get them to consider fixing some of the crap that's in there at the moment.

Nice idea but..... do they actually take note? or are they just out to generate as much revenue as possible ?

 

[davesparks]

Nice idea but..... do they actually take note? or are they just out to generate as much revenue as possible ?

I don't know, but if everyone takes that kind of approach then nothing will ever change.
It's the same as the ridiculous number of people who don't vote in elections because they think that their one little vote doesn't matter.

 

[Midwest]

Picky customers who don't care you are not up to date? Not very picky are they.

They are in dim awareness and haven't a clue as to what you are alluding to.

 

[sparkdog]

My assessor said a lot was to do with energy saving lighting, but we will see.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Still waiting............

 

[Pete999]

Still waiting............

 

[Pete999]

Still waiting............

 

[Leesparkykent]

Well the draft is up.

 

[Ian1981]

Still waiting............

Probably still working on amendment 1

 

[mattg4321]

421.1.7 Arc fault detection devices conforming to BS EN 62606 may be used to provide additional protection against fire caused by arc faults in AC final circuits.

I'm tired, can anyone see anything further to this regarding AFDD's?

 

[mattg4321]

542.1.201 is interesting.

Time to buy shares in copper! Looks like copper rods to every installation regardless of earthing arrangements unless I'm reading this wrong. Should be fun in a terraced house with no garden!