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If the equipment isn't listed on this web site it won't qualify as MCS approved.Can you tell me if ASHP systems running at SPF of 2.5 or less will qualify for the RHI. Designs such as High Temp systems ????
The level of RHI hasn't been decided yet so it is impossible to calculate how much of a return you will get.Has anyone looked at the figures, typical house can earn upto £15000 in the the 7 year period at the higher rate
Is the problem that they still do not know how to calculate the heat generated?
How do they really calculate it? By heatpump output? If it has provision on the heatpump to measure how much heat has been generated then if there is a fault with the system, or the system has been badly installed and the heatpump has to work hard to overcome this then the RHI payments would go through the roof.
With PV/wind it is simple, you have an approved generation meter.
They will either install meters, which are being installed on systems which qualify for thr RHPP or predicated output by SAP calcs
Now Thats What I Call Magic!Has anyone looked at the figures, typical house can earn upto £15000 in the the 7 year period at the higher rate
So you install a Thermodynamic heating system to heat your home, which will be most likely to fail or become ineffectual (expensive to run) in winter when you most need heat, removing any backup fossil fuel system on the insistance of DECC to heat your home in winter should it go belly up, in the quest for a short term 7 year payment.DECC were saying that any existing fossil heating system had to be removed.
The tariffs are set to provide a return in 7 years based on 20 years heat demand. This, of course, will lead to the situation where people install a system and benefit from the RHI and then sell-up after 7 years at which point the new occupant will have the increased costs of fuel to meet with no RHI payments to offset that at all. I would hope that DECC forsee this and put something in the final RHI to cope with it.
you could be quids in purchasing the house.
what systems do you have in mind?"Or quids out".
I am not against this technology per se.
I am against companies releasing expensive, "work in progress technologies" onto the UK market, with bold claims, customers actually being "unofficial guinea pigs" attracted to short term financial carrots - dangled in front of them, for short term gains at the expense of potentially long term liabilities.
People installing these systems should install them alongside fossil fuel back up systems until they are confident that they work reliably, through successive winters without massive increases in electricity bills or they may find they have made a very large monumental mistake - the purveyors of these systems long gone into the hills.
I was also sceptical about the training and have been curious about this product for a while, so I decided to go to their training day. I gave them a run for their money but as it happens the guy giving the presentation was very knowledgeable and they clearly have a very good product. They don’t have MCS yet but it is going through and I don’t see any reason they won’t get it. The product is a little pricy but it is far better than thermodynamics or any of the other hot water heat pumps that are on the market. I am fitting one in my house next week to test it for myself to see if it really is as good as it seems.
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