Volt Stick Tip.

[shanky887614]

HAHA, Brilliant! I'm well up for that! Save me a hell of a lot of time! Call it a functional test too!

Works for anoying customers. Keep a special one for rcd

 

[micknew]

Best thing invented for fast, fault finding if used by a trained sparks.

 

[Blowcat]

If its a socket I know a few guys that trip the breaker using a plug top and then see which mcb has tripped

Thats nuts doing it like that, they could cause a lot more problems for them selves.
Or you can use a socket N see tester with audible noise and switch of the circuits one at a time till it goes quite, and if its really far use walkie talkies so your not walking back n forth or up flights of stairs.

 

[shanky887614]

Thats nuts doing it like that, they could cause a lot more problems for them selves.
Or you can use a socket N see tester with audible noise and switch of the circuits one at a time till it goes quite, and if its really far use walkie talkies so your not walking back n forth or up flights of stairs.

Not always practical.

For example in one place my mate searched high and low and couldn't find the db at all.

followed where the board was fed from and could see where the swa went down but nothing on floor below

In the end It was hidden in wall behind a sheet of ply screwed to wall then painted over. (Even the owner didnt know it was there)

 

[UNG]

Saves loads of time at christmas finding the blown lamps on the tree lights although LED's are taking over now

 

[Deleted member 72666]

If its a socket I know a few guys that trip the breaker using a plug top and then see which mcb has tripped

Well, that's rough as 'hellholes' and extremely dangerous for the occupants too!
EDIT:....and it sure makes you look professional...not!

 

[Deleted member 72666]

HAHA, Brilliant! I'm well up for that! Save me a hell of a lot of time! Call it a functional test too!

Yeah, right! I don't believe a word.​

 

[iamelectric]

I cant believe so many people have negative views about these, they are brillaint and save a lot of time to verify circuits and avoid removing accessory plate's untill you need to. Imaging your in a 5 storey office block testing a 36 way landlords board with no circuit chart or any details, you can not unscrew every spur and put it back till you find the circuit your after. They save heaps of time and help get the job done quicker. A great bit of kit!

as you say great piece of kit , use mine everyday , mine has a tone alert so i stick it on the circuit , place my 2 way radio next to it with the button taped on and stand at the db 50 metres away and start flicking breakers till it goes off , as long as your not using it to prove the circuit is dead whats the big deal about using them

 

[shanky887614]

Well, that's rough as 'hellholes' and extremely dangerous for the occupants too!
EDIT:....and it sure makes you look professional...not!

How is it any different to tripping an rcd?

You do it everytime you do a ramp test?

 

[Deleted member 72666]

How is it any different to tripping an rcd?

You do it everytime you do a ramp test?

You have to verify earth continuity before applying these tests, and what's a ramp test got to do with tripping mcbs?

 

[shanky887614]

You have to verify earth continuity before applying these tests, and what's a ramp test got to do with tripping mcbs?

How is it extremely dangerous? Obviously they would use a plug in tester to check first before using one.

A lot of sparks use this method

 

[D Skelton]

Yeah, right! I don't believe a word.​

It was obviously meant in jest mate, calm down lol

How is it any different to tripping an rcd?

Because when you carry out a functional test on an RCD you are exposing the circuit to millamps at the supply end throug a resistor. Deliberately shorting a circuit to test the OCPD exposes the circuit to thousands of amps, way above it's normal capacity. Let's say the breaker happens to be faulty and doesn't trip? BBQ time!

 

[shanky887614]

It was obviously meant in jest mate, calm down lol



Because when you carry out a functional test on an RCD you are exposing the circuit to millamps at the supply end throug a resistor. Deliberately shorting a circuit to test the OCPD exposes the circuit to thousands of amps, way above it's normal capacity. Let's say the breaker happens to be faulty and doesn't trip? BBQ time!

Fair enough, forgot about that tbh, same as ir is only mA

 

[Deleted member 72666]

How is it extremely dangerous? Obviously they would use a plug in tester to check first before using one.

A lot of sparks use this method

By not verifying R2 first. Think about it, what would happen if the circuit under this 'test' you speak of had a poor or non existent earth?

 

[Deleted member 72666]

It was obviously meant in jest mate, calm down lol



Because when you carry out a functional test on an RCD you are exposing the circuit to millamps at the supply end throug a resistor. Deliberately shorting a circuit to test the OCPD exposes the circuit to thousands of amps, way above it's normal capacity. Let's say the breaker happens to be faulty and doesn't trip? BBQ time!

I knew you were joking and only pointed this out as that statement has the potential to influence lesser trained members/readers.

 

[shanky887614]

By not verifying R2 first. Think about it, what would happen if the circuit under this 'test' you speak of had a poor or non existent earth?

n-e then no drama if bad earth

They do l-n though

 

[Andy78]

I have a plug top shorted out L-E, very useful, but I have never used it on a live circuit. :S

 

[PEG]

Got a Megger DCM 330 a while back,to leave in the Patrol,has a voltfinder function which is,i suppose,a glorified v-stick. It has been extremely useful,quickly pointing me in the right direction on many occasions,quite sensitive too...NOT a substitute for other test gear,but if it gets chored,i would certainly replace it. But i also bought the "x-ray glasses" off the back of a comic when i was 10,so...

 

[Engineer54]

Got a Megger DCM 330 a while back,to leave in the Patrol,has a voltfinder function which is,i suppose,a glorified v-stick. It has been extremely useful,quickly pointing me in the right direction on many occasions,quite sensitive too...NOT a substitute for other test gear,but if it gets chored,i would certainly replace it. But i also bought the "x-ray glasses" off the back of a comic when i was 10,so...

An early Pervert, ....and a Gullable Pervert at that!! lol!! :icon6::seeya:

 

[Guest111]

If its a socket I know a few guys that trip the breaker using a plug top and then see which mcb has tripped

I remember one job it was an outside light in a hospital,very old building and the board was an old mem with about 50 rewireables in,anyway non of it was marked up so the old spark just shorted the feeds at the light and blew the fuse.I asked him how he was going to find it later,his reply was a classic "I'm on holiday for a week from tonight,let some other bugger look for it".