Where to get special tool to undo light fitting screw?

[haptism]

Theres some in this set that might fit, theones with prongs are called spanner head screws/spanner tip, or something like that

33pcs Security Bit Set Screwdriver Tool Holder Torx Star Hex Tamperproof Spanner | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/33pcs-Security-Bit-Set-Screwdriver-Tool-Holder-Torx-Star-Hex-Tamperproof-Spanner/1562874027?iid=361982558886

 

[chris murphy]

Hello EalingBadger,

Screwfix and Toolstation sell `Security Screwdriver bits` sets which have a couple of `U Tip` bits but I think that they would be too small to fit the screws that You showed in the photo ?

You will probably need a larger version of those `U Tip` bits - or as Members have already mentioned make a tool from a flat blade screwdriver by slotting it.

Here is a link to a set at Toolstation:

Security Screwdriver Bit Set 75mm - https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/d80/Bit+Sets/sd650/Security+Screwdriver+Bit+Set+75mm/p37470

I tried to attach a JPEG picture of the set but I got a Forum Error message.

EDIT: Member haptism beat me to it with a link to a similar set.

Regards,

Chris

 

[Pete E]

The obvious option of bodging it with a grinder is what I am trying to avoid if at all possible.

Why is that a bodge? In certain engineering trades, being able to make turnscrews and other similar tools was part of the training.

I can understand you not wanting to spend "a lot" of time making the correct fitting driver, but I suspect you have spent longer asking about it on here than it would actually take to make!!

Given you have a screw to work from, ten minutes with a Dermal and a couple of needle files should produce something that is very professional looking...

 

[EalingBadger]

Sooooo how did you get that one out then?

With long-nosed pliers.

A tedious exercise at the best of times and one which carries with it the good chance of nadgering the screwhead for next time.

 

[snowhead]

The original tool will just be a stamped piece of sheet metal much like Mk fish keys are.
A pain to use on multiple screws.

You're better off with a modified screwdriver as people keep suggesting.

 

[EalingBadger]

Why is that a bodge? In certain engineering trades, being able to make turnscrews and other similar tools was part of the training.

I can understand you not wanting to spend "a lot" of time making the correct fitting driver, but I suspect you have spent longer asking about it on here than it would actually take to make!!

Given you have a screw to work from, ten minutes with a Dermal and a couple of needle files should produce something that is very professional looking...

All agreed - the exercise is rapidly approaching the point where repairing to the workshop and wielding the angle grinder may be the only way forward.

The thing is, half the time anything I hit with a grinder does end up looking rather like a bit of a dog's dinner - hence why my preference was for the real tool if at all possible. I'm sure the church couldn't give two hoots what any tool might end up looking like (but I have my professional pride...)

 

[EalingBadger]

The original tool will just be a stamped piece of sheet metal much like Mk fish keys are.
A pain to use on multiple screws.

You're better off with a modified screwdriver as people keep suggesting.

Okay, okay, I give in.

Off to the grinder I go.

 

[snowhead]

Don't rush off I've found one;

N14 Security Screwdriver for Notched Security Screws | SSP Direct - https://www.securitysafetyproducts.co.uk/security/security-screws-fixings/n14-security-screwdriver-for-notched-security-screws.php

£20.40, bargain.

 

[rsgaz]

I think you want a size 16 for that...

 

[westward10]

This is the quality key for those screws.

 

[snowhead]

Ah, a screwdriver blade with a slot in it and the handle removed..

 

[ImpededLoop]

Possibly one of these:

CR Lighting. Design Plan Lighting Column Key - http://www.croutdoorlighting.co.uk/products/168-cr-6024-design-plan-key.aspx

 

[EalingBadger]

Don't rush off I've found one;

N14 Security Screwdriver for Notched Security Screws | SSP Direct - https://www.securitysafetyproducts.co.uk/security/security-screws-fixings/n14-security-screwdriver-for-notched-security-screws.php

£20.40, bargain.

Pricey as you say, but perfect.

 

[EalingBadger]

This is the quality key for those screws.View attachment 41531

Yeah, that's the fella. The awful truth of it is coming back to me after all these years now that I see an actual picture.

 

[Flanders]

Sooooo how

Crumbs Flanders, sounds like the kind of trick you picked up in the clink! Is there a story behind this?

Not realy Just that I have worked in prisons , the cons had better tools than us ☺ . Ps sorry for the late reply

 

[stevels4]

I use this.

 

[Toneyz]

If it's design plan they used to sell the screwdrivers for their security screws in their fittings.

 

[Rpa07]

I use this.

View attachment 41597

I try to look at the tool but can’t take my eyes off of the carpet - I’m torn!

 

[stevels4]

I try to look at the tool but can’t take my eyes off of the carpet - I’m torn!

It’s Sunday, I’m not on call and I couldn’t be ars*d to get a sheet of A4 to place it on

 

[telectrix]

It’s Sunday, I’m not on call and I couldn’t be ars*d to get a sheet of A4 to place it on

it's OK you can have a spare A4 sheet from me. here:
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