Advice on Unsatisfactory EICR report

[SparkyChick]

Tuppence

Thanks

 

[naylorpd]

Take the money for the rent but unwilling to spend money to keep the people inside safe.

Grossly unreasonable comment, which I think others online have recognised. If you don't have anything useful to contribute, perhaps its better to contribute nothing.

If you look at the EICR it says "safety assessment requested by client". I was clear that I'm looking to replace the CU and deal with all the problems associated with it.

So...so far I've employed a qualified electrician to do the EICR, and will do so again to replace the CU including RCDs, re-size the main earth and bonding, put correctly sized tails and install new immersion heater. Go figure how much that means paying to a qualified electrician.

I'm not at all unwilling to spend money on what I need to, but I don't like ----ing it away. So I know I'm perfectly competent to change a ceiling rose and a double socket, but I know I can't do an immersion heater, or a CU.

The sparky that did the EICR is only offering "to see what he can find" for £500. That sounds like a high risk to me, which is why I'm looking for more information.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

For IR faults or any faults for that matter on a EICR or board change im likely to do or done i quote the hourly rate. You pay the first 2 hours no matter what and then each hour there after. So 3 Hours £80 or whatever. If i dont find the fault in a house in half a day im going to be disappointed in myself. Thats each fault, looking at his report due to filling in 100MOhms on all and no ring main readings, im not sure what the faults are or even how many. Id average it out at a maximum of £100 - 120 a fault.

Obviously once faults are found there will be additional time and materials to rectify.

 

[naylorpd]

The whole EICR is a shambles. But I suspect quality was not on the ops list of priorities when choosing a contractor.

The inspector was chosen by my estate agent, is registered with NAPIT which is a UK government accreditation service so has presumably been vetted, his registration is on the EICR. What else do you think I should have done?

You've completely unjustifiably assumes that I am a cheapskate trying to avoid using a qualified electrician. Nothing is further from the truth.

I don't know about the EICR, that's why I posted it. If there are inconsistencies between the EICR and the proposed work (both as prepared by a competent, qualified and registered electrical inspector), I'm not competent to identify them so I would hope that the good and helpful people on this forum would help.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Have you paid for the EICR?
If you have, give it back to them and ask them to write it out properly.
If you haven’t, get someone else to do a proper one.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Deviation/Observation 1 isnt even a thing. Should read "No 30mA RCD protection to cables buried less than 50mm in the building fabric.

 

[naylorpd]

I think the £500 for two people for one day is a little excessive, unless of course it's a huge mansion.

it's a 4 bed detached house, built in 1982/3

 

[Deleted member 26818]

To start with, the inspector should not be stating stuff should be replaced in the report.
Should not be using the term ‘18th’ instead should use ‘BS7671’, if anything
There’s no reason given as to why there should be RCD protection for faults.
Why are the undersized tails and bonding conductors C3, but the main earth C2?

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

How much did you pay for the condition report please?

 

[The Ghost]

Personally I am coming across landlords who now have the policy of one electrician does the EICR another the rectifications. While of course I would welcome the work of both the EICR and remedials I can see a conflict of interests there and agree it is a fair policy. It encourages when a problem is noted, that it is indeed a problem not a pitch for un-needed work. Not that that is my practice I hasten to add it just makes me more careful.
Fault finding is a notoriously difficult area and I can sense your trepidation in handing over what may appear to be a blank cheque. However I would tend to examine the possible faults with a view to rewiring if it is more cost effective under the advice of the person ordering the work. After all, I could probably rewire cheaper than the cost of a couple of days fault finding.
The good thing about someone else coming in to do the remedials is that you get a double check and ensure a mistake was not made in doing the IR tests and they left something plugged in or did not bypass a neon or forgot about the USB sockets things like that. Second opinion is good.