Blanks missing from CU in 2 senarios

[Ian1981]

I personally think every scenario is different.
Accessibility comes into it in my opinion.
For instance today I had a fused spur in the loft area supplying the tv amplifier for a small block of flats , cover not screwed back so exposed live parts.
Normally I would c1 this however the loft area is only accessible by step ladders ( non fitted internally) and the loft cover can only be opened by a hex key.
I did not c1 this in this scenario.

 

[GBDamo]

They shouldn’t be.

How do you do your live tests?

To clarify, I agree they shouldn’t but they are and often.

 

[JOURNEYMAN]

If there is blanks missing from a CU what code would this be.
Scenario 1 .. 6 blanks missing from a CU in a corridor cupboard
Scenario 2 8 blanks missing from a locked corridor cupboard

Looking at 3 diffrent reports they have same faults but have been coded differently.

If the report(s) contained any C1's, shouldn't they have had the necessary remedial action taken immediately?

 

[ipf]

I personally think every scenario is different.
Accessibility comes into it in my opinion.
For instance today I had a fused spur in the loft area supplying the tv amplifier for a small block of flats , cover not screwed back so exposed live parts.
Normally I would c1 this however the loft area is only accessible by step ladders ( non fitted internally) and the loft cover can only be opened by a hex key.
I did not c1 this in this scenario.

Risk assessment, method statement...…..and screw the cover back....?

 

[westward10]

I personally think every scenario is different.
Accessibility comes into it in my opinion.
For instance today I had a fused spur in the loft area supplying the tv amplifier for a small block of flats , cover not screwed back so exposed live parts.
Normally I would c1 this however the loft area is only accessible by step ladders ( non fitted internally) and the loft cover can only be opened by a hex key.
I did not c1 this in this scenario.

I would have screwed it back on.

 

[GBDamo]

If the report(s) contained any C1's, shouldn't they have had the necessary remedial action taken immediately?

No. That path leads to non payment.

 

[Ian1981]

Risk assessment, method statement...…..and screw the cover back....?

Enclosure had the threads missing from the plastic back box or I’d have just fixed it back.
Presumably it’s been like that from day 1 and nobody could be arsed to change the surface box so left it.
Building was built around 2004/5 as it’s brown/blue coloured wiring but the consumer units are split load 16th edition stranded

 

[Ian1981]

Risk assessment, method statement...…..and screw the cover back....?

Enclosure had the threads missing from the plastic back box or I’d have just fixed it back.
Presumably it’s been like that from day 1 and nobody could be arsed to change the surface box so left it.
Building was built around 2004/5 as it’s brown/blue coloured wiring but the consumer units are split load 16th edition stranded so will have been like that since installed

 

[Nigel]

hand bags at dawn is it boys ,

Certainly not sir.

 

[Ian1981]

I would have screwed it back on.

Surface box was buggered and I don’t carry spares

 

[GBDamo]

I personally think every scenario is different.
Accessibility comes into it in my opinion.
For instance today I had a fused spur in the loft area supplying the tv amplifier for a small block of flats , cover not screwed back so exposed live parts.
Normally I would c1 this however the loft area is only accessible by step ladders ( non fitted internally) and the loft cover can only be opened by a hex key.
I did not c1 this in this scenario.

No light, hands groping round in the dark?? Ladder or not C1 all day long.

Your not there to do any favours, your there to cover YOUR arse not theirs.

 

[Nigel]

Any live working requires Risk assesment and method statements. Not just restricted access. As I said you shouldnt be working live not cant work live.

All works require RAMS. Not just live working.


In order to test and fault find you will almost certainly have to work live.

 

[Ian1981]

No light, hands groping round in the dark?? Ladder or not C1 all day long.

Your not there to do any favours, your there to cover YOUR arse not theirs.

It’s nowhere near the loft hatch.
You need to crawl in and across the walk boards to access it.
I never said I didn’t code it (C2) incase you care.
It’s my discretion as the inspector and no body else’s.

 

[westward10]

All works require RAMS. Not just live working.


In order to test and fault find you will almost certainly have to work live.

What has any of this to do with blank plates missing??

 

[Nigel]

No light, hands groping round in the dark?? Ladder or not C1 all day long.

Your not there to do any favours, your there to cover YOUR arse not theirs.

No you are there to give a concise report on the electrical installation as you find it and code appropriatly not code to ‘cover your arse’.

 

[westward10]

So all these Code 1s people dish out do you give notification of it on the day in writing.

 

[Nigel]

So all these Code 1s people dish out do you give notification of it on the day in writing.

Nope.

 

[GBDamo]

It’s nowhere near the loft hatch.
You need to crawl in and across the walk boards to access it.
I never said I didn’t code it (C2) incase you care.
It’s my discretion as the inspector and no body else’s.

It’s nowhere near the loft hatch.
You need to crawl in and across the walk boards to access it.
I never said I didn’t code it (C2) incase you care.
It’s my discretion as the inspector and no body else’s.

Your arse too.

With this type of thing you have to reword your decision in the patronising tones of a prosecution barrister.

But as you rightly say it’s your call.

 

[GBDamo]

So all these Code 1s people dish out do you give notification of it on the day in writing.

Email the EICR to bill payer

For urgent attention in subject box if C1s.

Chat with site if it’s something horrendous, don’t lick that bit kind of chat, you know the one.

 

[Ian1981]

Your arse too.

With this type of thing you have to reword your decision in the patronising tones of a prosecution barrister.

But as you rightly say it’s your call.

Again there’s a potential of danger but I can’t see an immediate risk to life hence no c1
It is a loft which is locked at a height in a block of communal flats to which no one has access.
I’ll live with my judgement and will sleep at night.
The report has an unsatisfactory outcome amongst other contributing factors so I believe my arse is indeed covered.