Britain Leave the European Union (Please be polite with other people's views)

[telectrix]

we should not upset the Jocks. I need a piper to play at my funeral.

 

[electric al]

Definition of a Scots gentleman ; someone who can play the bagpipes but doesn't

 

[telectrix]

just need to get a decent deal for the brexit, as in borders. never mind the Irish border, can we have a "hard" border between England and Scotland?

 

[baldelectrician]

The Brexit is a UK act of self harm.

Before the vote the First Minister proposed that a double lock be in place- a majority of the UK countries must vote OUT for brexit to happen, that was shot down.
Had this been in place we would have stayed as both Scotland and Northern Ireland voted IN.

Most of the scare stories the 'Bitter Together' lot are now reversed, things such as

• All the banks will leave (many will now go to Scotland if we are in the EU and the former UK [fUK] is out)
• Companies (especially service ones) will leave and come to Scotland
• Scotland can attract more investment than ever before as part of the EU

If people want the UK out that's fine but I don't think we should jump off the cliff just because the rest of the UK are.

 

[telectrix]

the UK can live without Scotland, Scotland cannot live without the UK.

 

[baldelectrician]

the UK can live without Scotland, Scotland cannot live without the UK.

They used to say that to Eire, Malta, USA ...

There's a reason they use GERS and don't compile all the figures on a region by region basis and use estimates.
For example- right now there are around £200 billion of UK infrastructure works in London and the South East of England as well as HS2 (which won't touch Scotland for 30 years) yet Scots are being invoiced for 10% of it as 'Scottish debt'
Its the same as the national audit office telling the UK government to allocate English tuition fees as debt which adds £2bn to the Scottish 'debt' figures yet Scotland receives little or NO benefit

That stopped in 1921.

See this article by John Jappy in Wings. also

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[baldelectrician]

the UK can live without Scotland, Scotland cannot live without the UK.

They used to say that to Eire, Malta, USA ...

There's a reason they use GERS and don't compile all the figures on a region by region basis and use estimates.
For example- right now there are around £200 billion of UK infrastructure works in London and the South East of England as well as HS2 (which won't touch Scotland for 30 years) yet Scots are being invoiced for 10% of it as 'Scottish debt'

NO infrastructure spending in Scotland is classed as UK debt- the M74 extension and the Queenferry crossing is paid for by the Scottish Government

Its the same as the national audit office telling the UK government to allocate English tuition fees as debt which adds £2bn to the Scottish 'debt' figures yet Scotland receives little or NO benefit

They stopped compiling separate stats in 1921.

See this article by John Jappy in Wings. also

 

[telectrix]

it's only the rich parasites in the south east that want HS2, so they can get back from fleecing us northern folks for all they can grab and get back to their penthouse suites and mistresses quicker. we don't want or need HS2.

 

[baldelectrician]

it's only the rich parasites in the south east that want HS2, so they can get back from fleecing us northern folks for all they can grab and get back to their penthouse suites and mistresses quicker. we don't want or need HS2.

I agree and see your point.
Up here we can have a different path and ditch the Westminster elite and SE England bias.

They are fleecing us all, with indy up here we can go on a different path.

 

[plugsandsparks]

This deal or no deal is hurting my head. I voted to leave, a deal is a nice to have but not what i expected or demanded so here is a petition.

Petition: Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019. - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

 

[telectrix]

This deal or no deal is hurting my head. I voted to leave, a deal is a nice to have but not what i expected or demanded so here is a petition.

Petition: Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019. - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

nice one mate. signed it just. don't forget lads, click the email link they send.

 

[plugsandsparks]

At the rate it is climbing, could be the biggest petition they have ever had, lol

 

[Silly Sausage]

nice one mate. signed it just. don't forget lads, click the email link they send.

You do realise that May's deal will be out voted, then there will 2 months of froth, ranting and bluster and Article 50 will be retracted at the 11th hour.

Forget 17.4 million voters, this is Britain, we always roll over for the minorities!

 

[baldelectrician]

I expect this deal to be voted down, all going well the Westminster government will fall and there will be a general election.

Corbyn will get in (without a majority), what the polls forget is that Labour (south of the border anyway) have a decent party machine to get out the vote.
He will then lost the youth vote by not stopping brexit and more chaos will follow

In this chaos the SNP will have an independence referendum top of their manifesto and it will be hard to refuse the vote then.

 

[chris gray]

I personally think the English should have a vote on kicking Scotland out of the uk!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

What have the Scots ever done for us?

 

[andyb]

Whisky

 

[andyb]

And whisky, did I mention whisky?

 

[chris gray]

Camoron slinked off when the English voted to leave the eu, now terrorist may has made a complete bollox of the brexit deal. Time for the English to prepare for us to walk away with no deal. Personally I voted to leave and have always expected to walk away with no deal. Hopefully Corbyn is allowed a general election and voted in as our prime minister to take charge of the complete joke the conservatives have created

 

[plugsandsparks]

Another petition for NO Delay to article 50
Petition: Brexit re article 50 it must not be suspended/stopped under any circumstances - https://petition.parliament.uk/signatures/53579420/signed