Cable routing inside a consumer unit

[Andy Hames]

Get the money back first to repay the client

I haven't charged anyone for anything, it's a project I'm doing with a friend.

So are you rewiring this property.

I'm doing some of the work, not all of it.

 

[westward10]

Who is doing the rest of the rewiring then. This is a prime example of the epic failure of Part P, set up to stop incompetent persons from working in dwellings.

 

[Andy Hames]

Who is doing the rest of the rewiring then. This is a prime example of the epic failure of Part P, set up to stop incompetent persons from working in dwellings.

The rest will be done by a someone who recently completed their electricians training, they will also be doing some of the testing.

This isn't the same person as I previously mentioned who has more experience and is better qualified.

 

[timhoward]

you don't agree Dave ? why not

Depending on what mood I'm in and how much beer etc. I could argue this one both ways!
Technically if it's not a ring then 433.1.204 doesn't apply so the special permission to use a 32A breaker for cable that can't carry 32A that doesn't exist.
I believe that's true even though it's electrically equivalent to a spur off a ring to a double socket with the connection point being at the CU.
So I know what you mean and I think I know what he means....

 

[westward10]

The rest will be done by a someone who recently completed their electricians training, they will also be doing some of the testing.

This isn't the same person as I previously mentioned who has more experience and is better qualified.

Not sure if that is worse or better if they are allowing you to do what you have done.

 

[davesparks]

@davesparks you don't agree Dave ? why not

Just look at the pictures and read the thread, there is no way anything that has been done here is fine.

Plus we know nothing of how that cable has been installed, how on earth can you say that this arrangement is fine when you don't know what de-rating factors are applicable?

 

[mainline]

It's feeding one socket on a first floor, it cannot draw more than 13 amps that would be some de-rating of a cable that's capable of carrying 26 amps wouldn't you think ?

 

[mainline]

Just look at the pictures and read the thread, there is no way anything that has been done here is fine.

Nothing ?

 

[mainline]

Depending on what mood I'm in and how much beer etc. I could argue this one both ways!
Technically if it's not a ring then 433.1.204 doesn't apply so the special permission to use a 32A breaker for cable that can't carry 32A that doesn't exist.
I believe that's true even though it's electrically equivalent to a spur off a ring to a double socket with the connection point being at the CU.
So I know what you mean and I think I know what he means....

433.3.1

 

[timhoward]

433.3.1

Maybe. Depends on other factors really.
Anyway, I wouldn't die on my sword over it as long as it's not method 103 powering a washing machine and a tumble drier.