- Reaction score
- 17,090
Well I never, lolIts a detail of "Water Lily Pond" - has that effect don't it ? I'll guess at $50m ...
Discuss Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views! in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net
Well I never, lolIts a detail of "Water Lily Pond" - has that effect don't it ? I'll guess at $50m ...
Now I have seen patch panels, telephones all types of elv stuff but that a first for cable tidys , brilliant , I'd love to see how they are listed on the report .Not sure why these two items need retesting next month...
...seeing as though they are just a couple of cable tidies laying on the floor next to a data rack!!
There was another 5 or 6 in the rack that had been tested too!!
(unique numbers edited out due to OCD)
Gaz
So, I've just started doing some work for a local plumbing firm. Got a call this morning "can you come and install a wireless thermostat". Yeah no problem I think. Get to the site and apparently this system is fully installed and working.
This was what I found in the wiring center.
View attachment 36850
On the basis of that fine piece of work, I decided to dig a little deeper.
The full list of faults went like this:-
I don't do a lot of heating wiring, but I can follow a wiring diagram.
- No earth from the FCU supplying the heating
- Existing wireless thermostat was not connected - Cables were twisted together behind it's mounting socket... bare, no tape
- No demand connections to the boiler only the power supply - The demand control link was still in place so this thing has been running since it was turned on maintaining the temperature of the bypass loop
View attachment 36851
Not bad for my third attempt at central heating wiring if I do say so myself. Still room for improvement, but it all works as it should through a wireless programmer and a pair of wireless thermostats (one remote for the cylinder and one for a room). And I got a decent Zs at the boiler, so it's a winner
Where did all the cord clamps go?!
Where did all the cord clamps go?!
Nothing wrong with that at all, far better than most that I see, my only suggestion would be to fit a small piece of brown sleeving on the grey and black permanent & switched lives- and fit it close to the terminations.
That my dear is a bloody good question... if I ever bump into the plumber who created the original abomination I'll ask him
To be fair, they are probably in the floor void with all the other rubbish and rubble he created and chucked in there (much to the annoyance of the householder).
That my dear is a bloody good question... if I ever bump into the plumber who created the original abomination I'll ask him
To be fair, they are probably in the floor void with all the other rubbish and rubble he created and chucked in there (much to the annoyance of the householder).
I did add some brown sleeving, but it fell about when I was cable wrangling, but it is there (at both ends of the cables)
If you ever meet him, just remember: Choking the life out of him is just a tad illegal
Annoys me when people just dump stuff in floor voids and wherever. All you've got to do is have a box or a bag to stick the rubbish in as you're going.
killing a wet-pants ain't a crime, it's a service to humankind.
Thanks chaps
To be brutally honest, it scared the carp out of me when I got there and saw it. From now on I don't think I'll be quite so intimidated by central heating wiring.
Bit of a mixed bag today though, had my first *BANG*. Replacing a light fitting for a landlord customer in one of her rentals, connected up, Zs was sweet, attached to ceiling, put the lights in and turn it on *BANG*. Looks like sharp edges cut into the poxy little cables running to the fittings. Suffice to say a ceiling rose is going up next week before I do an EICR on the place (no reason to do one other than she's not had one done on that property so she wants to get her paperwork in order).
And to top it off, I got rear ended in traffic crossing the bridge into Penarth on the way to this heating job, so a really mixed bag
Nice neat job @SparkyChick...these are handy to keep in the van for heating wiring. They have tabs so you can loop thin cable ties through for strain relief and use leaver wagos so you don't have to ferrule the flex. If you want to be really thorough you could number the wagos and list what they are doing on the bit of lined paper provided in the lid to make an easy job for someone who works on the system next Buy Hager White Junction Box without Terminals J701 at The Electrical Guys - https://www.electricalguys.co.uk/hager-white-junction-box-without-terminals-j701.html?utm_source=google_shopping&m=Abstract&gclid=CN-_0YHMwNQCFRM6GwodVnoLTA
Only if he turns blue and dies... if I keep a check on his pulse and release a little when his pulse gets weak I should be alright
So, I've just started doing some work for a local plumbing firm. Got a call this morning "can you come and install a wireless thermostat". Yeah no problem I think. Get to the site and apparently this system is fully installed and working.
This was what I found in the wiring center.
View attachment 36850
On the basis of that fine piece of work, I decided to dig a little deeper.
The full list of faults went like this:-
I don't do a lot of heating wiring, but I can follow a wiring diagram.
- No earth from the FCU supplying the heating
- Existing wireless thermostat was not connected - Cables were twisted together behind it's mounting socket... bare, no tape
- No demand connections to the boiler only the power supply - The demand control link was still in place so this thing has been running since it was turned on maintaining the temperature of the bypass loop
View attachment 36851
Not bad for my third attempt at central heating wiring if I do say so myself. Still room for improvement, but it all works as it should through a wireless programmer and a pair of wireless thermostats (one remote for the cylinder and one for a room). And I got a decent Zs at the boiler, so it's a winner
It looks like the two oranges are separate, that's a tad unusual?
How did you get over the lack of cord grips?
I was originally going to have them feed a single demand connection, but the boiler is pretty clever, has a nice LCD on the front with a fancy menu driven control system. It has two demand inputs central heating and hot water, so I used the two. The boiler LCD then tells the customer what is demanding heat.
As for the cord grips, just clipped the cables very well after ascertaining what was going to be happening to that area of the house. Currently it's open but it is going to be boxed in. It's in a corner of a room. Opposite the wiring centre is a big hot water store and there are numerous pipes and things between the wall and that store. It's all going to be boxed in.
Not ideal I know, but I wasn't going there to rewire the thing, just to connect a wireless thermostat. Had I been to see the job before hand and known it was that bad I would have picked up a new wiring centre. It's an item that is going on my stock list
I'd be interested to see how well 'I know it's not quite right but I've left it safer than when I arrived' works as a defence in court.
If it's being boxed in, and that's your reasoning for not needing to provide strain relief, then presumably it will be inaccessible and therefore should be MF?
But if it is accessible then it surely needs better strain relief than nail clips into plasterboard?
I'd be interested to see you type a decent reply to somebody one day but hey the world's not perfect eh.
She has carried out a repair which is miles better than how it started. Marked up and tested the system.
Let's not get overly picky cause there is minus a few p clips and firmer fixings!!
View attachment 36890
Came across this last week. Some moron had double fed a light fitting so that when the klik plug was unplugged, the pins were LIVE!
im guessing it's a take away.View attachment 36890
Came across this last week. Some moron had double fed a light fitting so that when the klik plug was unplugged, the pins were LIVE!
There's people on this thread complaining about a few bits of insulation left in a loft next to a joint box, yet I am being overly picky for pointing out things which do not comply with the regulations?
Yes that would be me, but no point in quoting things out of context Dave, that wasn't a complaint but more of an observation, a little example of a lack of being thorough which I tend to see quite often,nothing more. Do you leave discarded insulation in loft spaces , maybe you do because nothing in BS7671 forbids it ? I'm just saying that there's a lot more to being a really good electrician than merely complying with the regs, and the way you interact with people and treat them can go a long way.
Reply to Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views! in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net