OP
Bobster
look i think i may have getting off on the wrong foot with 1 or 2 of you just to end all the ****e sorry if you feel i have offended you.
You haven't offended me, or I'm guessing anyone else. All we want is a decent install that will be safe for anyone using it.
I'm all for teaching people (I push for my company to take on apprentices every year)
What I don't want, and the same with many others is people without the knowledge of how to do things properly attempting to install things without proper supervision whilst learning.