Stroma Certification Scheme has anyone heard of STROMA

[MG201]

keep getting contacted by STROMA about joining them and using there services for electrical certification , they seem to be implying that they are the new and improved NAPIT service, has anyone else had contact from them

 

[Midwest]

Yep constantly. They are just another one of the schemes, slightly cheaper fees; although I've read on here that they seem to be struggling slightly with the 'services' these schemes provide, i.e. technical support & on-line certification.

Thought there was only NICEIC & one other (Select?) authorised scheme in Scotland?

 

[Rpa07]

Never heard of them! Anyone?

They are legit and they do much the same as the other CPSchemes but for less of the price - that being as you’ve posted, not many people have heard of them, especially customers BUT 90% of customers don’t care about part P or notification to the LBC they just want well installed electrical work that doesn’t cost the earth.
Ah, I see - they are trying to make it over the border - Build a wall!

 

[The Ghost]

Yeh it's that thing when you get a gastric bypass with a bag to collect your waste.

 

[The Ghost]

I'm with them great price nice assessment NIC can't hold a candle to them. They are actually polite to their customers unlike NIC who treat you like you are something stuck on their shoe.

 

[Octopus]

I’m with Stroma ..... cheaper than the others. And just as easy to notify part p stuff...

Can’t believe you haven’t heard of them tbh

But as you are in Glasgow, do they operate in Scotland?

 

[MG201]

I’m with Stroma ..... cheaper than the others. And just as easy to notify part p stuff...

Can’t believe you haven’t heard of them tbh

But as you are in Glasgow, do they operate in Scotland?

had an email off NAPIT saying that they were contacting members and saying NAPIT were in financial difficulty and trying to get members which napit say is deflamatory( as they are a charity i defo dont recon they woud be ), STORMA obviously going through NAPIT members to try get membership up thats what a sales team does i suppose

 

[Andy78]

Been with stroma for a couple of years now with no probs about the way they operate.
I have had napit ring me bad mouthing stroma before now though.

 

[netblindpaul]

There is some bad blood between those two schemes as it seems people left NAPIT with their customer list and went to STROMA to set up the electrical section.
This is only something I was told, I have no evidence to substantiate it.
However it might explain the way that both are sparring off against each other?

 

[Spud28]

im with them and as im part time on the installation side was a no brainer to fork out any more to notify a handful of jobs/ year. notification much easier than napit whom i was with previously in there just 8 scheme or whatever it was called

 

[JD6400]

They have been chasing us on and off for the last couple of years , but have stepped it up about 3 months ago .

When our paid up membership runs out in 6 months , we are going with them.

We have been with napshite since the beginning but have finally given up on funding big John's piggy bank , their standard response to a problem is to pass it on , that is if one eye Robin was not fleecing you for bent copies of needed documents " so you could pass " your assessment.
They are all parasites on our once proud industry , but Stroma seem the best at the moment !

Oh and happy Christmas!!!

Rant over

 

[SparkySy]

I too am with Stroma, I was with Elecsa before that and napit before them.
I'm can't say a bad word about them, their surveillance visits are good the guy who comes out to me is a gent and even let me download to my phone some documents that had gone missing since last year's assessment so that I had no non conformance's!
And they are half the price of the others, no brained to switch really, especially as I try not to do domestic so don't have that many to register a year.
Not tried their software online for the testing though as I have whatever they are called now,, that's it shineforms!
Sy

 

[The Mains Man]

I'm with Stroma. I use their online forms for certification. It isn't too bad as long as you are using a tablet, not so good on a phone though. Could certainly be better but it works fine. There are some restrictions when it comes to transferring between tablet (on site) and computer (which I use to send out invoices and certs) when it isn't all done in one go. You can't download it back to the tablet after.

Fees are clearly much cheaper which is partly why I picked them.

Customer service could be more efficient but seem to do what they need to. Technical support is variable, depending on who you get to speak to, but I guess there is probably better and more useful knowledge here so that doesn't matter so much!

 

[peterhyper]

I was with stroma and my experience was not good. An assessor that gave misleading information, and I had to chase almost every certificate up that the admin would always insist was sent (which was absolute rubbish). I had direct contact with a manager about this on many occasions, but nothing ever changed, and this made me look unprofessional to my customers who were chasing me up for their certificates.

Never had one issue with an electrical certificate through the NICEIC, and apart from one assessor shortly after part pee came in who was a bit jobsworth, I have never had an issue with their assessors. Stroma might have saved me £4 a week, but it wasn't worth the hassle.

 

[MG201]

I assume people use this rather than using trimble/amtech etc. Due to cost. What about niceic paperwork . I think it's £1 a cert not 100% though. ...is this what u mean when u say chase up certificate?.​

 

[peterhyper]

I assume people use this rather than using trimble/amtech etc. Due to cost. What about niceic paperwork . I think it's £1 a cert not 100% though. ...is this what u mean when u say chase up certificate?.​

What I meant was I submitted the certs online using their software, which in fairness was easy to do, and stroma would have received it but rarely sent certs out without me having to chase them up. One customer emailed me say that he eventually got his cert (after I had to chase it up), but the print was poor as if the printer had almost run out of ink. I called stroma who confirmed that their printer had been running low on ink hence the poor quality!

 

[MisterE]

I'm with STROMA and use their online software, it's free and it gets the job done (although a bit long winded), I've not had any issues with producing the .pdf certificates (downloaded instantly) and have the notifications emailed to me (they've always arrived same day) so that I can pass them on to the customer.

 

[JK-Electrical]

But as you are in Glasgow, do they operate in Scotland?

Apparently they do, but according to their member list there are just four electrical contracting businesses in Scotland who are members of STROMA.

 

[The Ghost]

submitted the certs

I never "submit" my certs through a scheme. I have heard NIC getting in touch with your customers and offering testing when the time is due. Do not know if that is urban legend or idle chat or what. I did clarify with STROMA before joining them their confidentiality policy regards this possibility and was assured they would never contact my customers.

 

[Midwest]

Might be wrong, but I doubt any organisation could use the information contained with certificates in that way. Urban myth I think.

 

[The Ghost]

Urban myth I think

I do tend to agree rationally. However how tempting must it be to have all that info and the possibility of making money from it? I find it hard to beleive a would be plutocratic organisation like NIC would pass that opportunity up and would in some way capitalise on it, but then thats the paranoid side of me.

 

[JOURNEYMAN]

I'm also with Stroma. No real problems with them. They're always polite and friendly. The assessments have always been thorough. Most of my work is domestic so I've no need for the elitist, expensive money grabbers that I was with in the past.
I have certs and notifications e mailed directly to me which is almost instant and then I print off and pass on to my clients. Handy if the client looses cert as I can quickly replace it. The software is best done on a tablet or lap top/desk top. The android version for the phone is too fiddly and small for an old timer like me. If you want to simply comply and be registered on a scheme with the least expensive, basic, no frills attached, no monthly newsletter with pics of scheme providers p****d up 'n spending your fees at a swanky black tie diner on Park Lane then Stroma are worth considering.

 

[MDJ]

keep getting contacted by STROMA about joining them and using there services for electrical certification , they seem to be implying that they are the new and improved NAPIT service, has anyone else had contact from them

If you want to be left alone and your work unchecked with just a yearly telephone call then they are great, didn't know they were in Jockland though, do you need a scheme up there?

 

[Midwest]

didn't know they were in Jockland though, do you need a scheme up there?

Op's been asked that a couple of times now. Apparently Stroma have crossed the wall.

 

[MDJ]

Op's been asked that a couple of times now. Apparently Stroma have crossed the wall.

I don't read most of the replies, they are usually bollox to be honest.

 

[Wilko]

I don't read most of the replies, they are usually bollox to be honest.

So would you include your own replies in this?

 

[MDJ]

So would you include your own replies in this?

everytime, keep up

 

[Midwest]

I don't read most of the replies, they are usually bollox to be honest.

Thats just being lazy, and up your own arse, pardon the profanity

 

[telectrix]

Thats just being lazy, and up your own arse, pardon the profanity

he's a Jeremy Corblimey supporter, what do you expect? .

 

[JK-Electrical]

If you want to be left alone and your work unchecked with just a yearly telephone call then they are great, didn't know they were in Jockland though, do you need a scheme up there?

No. Up here anyone can call themselves an electrician and carry-out electrical installation work. I know of plumbers up here carrying-out EICRs. I kid you not.

SELECT have been lobbying the Scottish Government for years to try and persuade them that electricians should be recognised as professionals and given legal protected status. But alas, wee Jimmy Sturgeon and her motley crew in Holyrood aren't listening. They're too busy trying to sabotage Brexit and gearing-up for a second independence referendum to be bothered about trivialities such dangerous electrical installations created by DIYers, cowboys and rogue electricians.

 

[MDJ]

he's a Jeremy Corblimey supporter, what do you expect? .

No I'm Not, not at all, the guy is a twit, I am a Blair supporter get it right

 

[MDJ]

he's a Jeremy Corblimey supporter, what do you expect? .

No I'm Not, not at all, the guy is a twit, I am a Blair supporter get it right

Thats just being lazy, and up your own arse, pardon the profanity

no worries, your right

 

[sham]

It seems as though Stroma is quite popular regarding this thread.

 

[telectrix]

Gorblimey might be a twit, but he's an honest twit, according to his beliefs, i'll give him that, but phony blair, he was and is an out and out self-seeking, money grabbing, 2 faced TW4T.

 

[Midwest]

Gorblimey might be a twit, but he's an honest twit, according to his beliefs, i'll give him that, but phony blair, he was and is an out and out self-seeking, money grabbing, 2 faced TW4T.

I dunno, if if if I was going to vote Labour, it would be a Blair not a Corbyn (Iraq war not withstanding). I thought David Milliband was bloody nice bloke.

Mind this Brexit thing done us out of a good PM; big Dave might not have been liked by a lot, but he was a right -------. Something you need to be as a PM, like our Theresa is finding out. She's a nice person, unfortunately for her.

 

[telectrix]

bring back Maggie Thatcher. she'd show 'em.

 

[Dave OCD]

I'd imagine she'd be a bit too thin by now.

 

[MG201]

I'm sure a lot of us scots will allow NICOLA STURGEON (aka jimmy cranky )to go down south and never return... all we hear is independence independence another referendum untill we get result we want.. even still says oil is the £ that will support us.. I'm not a Tory was always labour but now a days I can't see the difference between them they all wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

[telectrix]

I'm sure a lot of us scots will allow NICOLA STURGEON (aka jimmy cranky )to go down south and never return... all we hear is independence independence another referendum untill we get result we want.. even still says oil is the £ that will support us.. I'm not a Tory was always labour but now a days I can't see the difference between them they all wolves in sheep's clothing.

You can keep her. wealready got1 loony in parliament.... diane abbrot.

 

[MDJ]

bring back Maggie Thatcher. she'd show 'em.

LOL, the ice maiden, she wouldn't get your vote, the european dream was her dream, she would have hated brexit.

 

[sham]

''The Lady's not for turning''

 

[MDJ]

You can keep her. wealready got1 loony in parliament.... diane abbrot.

2, Boris johnson

 

[Midwest]

2, Boris johnson

I have to agree; can't see why anyone would think he would make a good PM.

Lord Snooty (Rees-Mogg) might be a better backer, but could you imagine him having a chit chat with Trumpy

 

[SparkySy]

I do quite like Rees-Mogg, he does say some sensible things, a lot more sensible than some of the nitwhits that are supposed to be running the country!(into the ground)
He has said a few times he isn't interested in being PM. He's got enough money already, would be amusing to see him and Trump together talking though!

 

[clottie]

are Stroma "electricians" allowed to install consumer units (after they have done an EICR) if they are only part p qualified? If a CU is installed - is the customer supposed to get a Building Regs registration document as well as an EICR - thanks

 

[westward10]

Replacement consumer units require an EIC and if it is in a dwelling notification to Building Control under Part P of the Building Regulations. There is no such thing as a Part P qualification and an EICR is not related to a consumer unit replacement.

 

[clottie]

Replacement consumer units require an EIC and if it is in a dwelling notification to Building Control under Part P of the Building Regulations. There is no such thing as a Part P qualification and an EICR is not related to a consumer unit replacement.

thanks... i didn't explain myself too well. the Stroma man did an EICR inspection over several hours. He did not produce an EICR document at that stage. some weeks later he replaced the old consumer unit (for a metal one in the hall next to the front door.) He has now produced a 3 page EICR with no C1 C2 C3 coding items of any sort, and no mention of a new Consumer unit either being needed or fitted, nor is there a Building Control document. He has not written the no number of years the installation is legal for before requiring a repeat EICR. This is a rented property. That is why i asked if Stroma guys were qualified... as i know some are qualified to inspect and some to install and inspect..... and i cant find him on any register anywhere.... although he has a stroma number. The form seems to have been filled in incorrectly. I am not sure if the house is safe or not.

 

[westward10]

There is no legal requirement for anyone to hold qualifications for this type of work however membership with Stroma would require evidence of some. You should have received an EICR initially itemising any departures from current requirements which would give you some guidance of any remedial which were required. What was your terms of contract if they have just replaced the consumer unit without producing an EICR.

 

[clottie]

There is no legal requirement for anyone to hold qualifications for this type of work however membership with Stroma would require evidence of some. You should have received an EICR initially itemising any departures from current requirements which would give you some guidance of any remedial which were required. What was your terms of contract if they have just replaced the consumer unit without producing an EICR.

The terms of contract are with my landlord - i am the worried tenant. I cannot find a list of registered electricians on the Stroma scheme.... is there such a thing - like the NICEIC listings.....

 

[westward10]

Have you been given a copy of the EICR.