Help please - Is this acceptable?

[DanMiddle]

Hi,

I am currently doing a small kitchen. It needs to be wired, however the elctricians can't do it for a while, so what im thinking about doing is chasing out the walls and putting in 25mm round conduit, then plastering over it, so when the electrical work can be done they can just push the cable through the conduit and to the sockets. Is this ok to do? It's only for 4 sockets, as it's a very small kitchen.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Cid]

Yeah it's fine

 

[Marvo]

There's nothing to stop you from installing the first fix as an unskilled person. (Unskilled as in not an electrician). It might be worth just getting a sketch for a suitable conduit layout from the sparky who's scheduled to do the installation at a later date.

 

[buzzlightyear]

thats ok but there will be a starting point for the wiring when he put the cables in .if it was me I would wait until he is free other wise some body will be in pain ,and thats not the spark .

 

[DanMiddle]

Thanks for the replies. That's eased my mind a bit.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Thanks for the replies. That's eased my mind a bit

WHAT ABOUT YOUR EARS WHEN SOMEBODY STARTS SHOUTING IN THEM ,LIKE ME ,LOL.

 

[SJD]

I'd comment that 25mm is maybe quite a deep chase especially if horizontal unless you don't need a plaster finish on top due to being tiled.

 

[Risteard]

Why not just wait until the Electrician's available?

 

[dmxtothemax]

Get the electrician in to look at the job,
he can then decide on the routes for the cables,
then you know exactly where to put the cables.

 

[Diver233]

Find another electrician who can do your time scale, or wait for your first choice.

 

[Pete999]

Hi,

I am currently doing a small kitchen. It needs to be wired, however the elctricians can't do it for a while, so what im thinking about doing is chasing out the walls and putting in 25mm round conduit, then plastering over it, so when the electrical work can be done they can just push the cable through the conduit and to the sockets. Is this ok to do? It's only for 4 sockets, as it's a very small kitchen.

Thanks for reading.

In theory yes it's OK, in practice however not really a good idea, or recommendation as you don't know how the Electrician will wire the sockets, plus it will be a right fiddle getting 2.5 cable into a circular conduit post plastering in my opinion.

 

[Dustydazzler]

No problem with this

In fact you could go one step further and run in the cables to the various points and take the legs back to the board

Ready for the sparks to connect up

 

[Pete999]

No problem with this

In fact you could go one step further and run in the cables to the various points and take the legs back to the board

Ready for the sparks to connect up

How will the "Sparks" be able to be sure the cabling has been installed correctly, and sign it off as satisfactory? this is a kitchen.

 

[Dustydazzler]

How will the "Sparks" be able to be sure the cabling has been installed correctly, and sign it off as satisfactory? this is a kitchen.

Text them to ask if they are happy to proceed

Take a few pictures on your smart phone on job in stages

Show them when they come to connect up

No problem

 

[Tony Reidy]

Hi,

I am currently doing a small kitchen. It needs to be wired, however the elctricians can't do it for a while, so what im thinking about doing is chasing out the walls and putting in 25mm round conduit, then plastering over it, so when the electrical work can be done they can just push the cable through the conduit and to the sockets. Is this ok to do? It's only for 4 sockets, as it's a very small kitchen.

Thanks for reading.

I'd use 20 mm conduit myself

 

[Dustydazzler]

I'd use 20 mm conduit myself

Or 25mm oval ?

 

[Dustydazzler]

I'd use 20 mm conduit myself

Or 25mm oval ?

 

[Midwest]

I wouldn't bother. You'll bound to miss or forget something. You wouldn't start installing some kitchen furniture 'cos the installers not available.

You should just wait as others have already said; have your kitchen installer come up with a suitable 'timeline', with dates for all the trades to attend.

 

[Pete999]

I'd use 20 mm conduit myself

20MM tube buried and plastered over, trying to get 2x2.5mm T and E in? good luck with that.

 

[Dustydazzler]

20MM tube buried and plastered over, trying to get 2x2.5mm T and E in? good luck with that.

The cables would require some serious greasing up but doable over short lengths


25mm conduit would be much easier

 

[davesparks]

20MM tube buried and plastered over, trying to get 2x2.5mm T and E in? good luck with that.

Or just install one conduit fir each cable.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Or just install one conduit fir each cable.

I have actually seen this done before on a few new builds

 

[Pete999]

I have actually seen this done before on a few new builds

Don't make it right though DD

 

[Tony Reidy]

20MM tube buried and plastered over, trying to get 2x2.5mm T and E in? good luck with that.

Shot run in a straight line not a problem perhaps your not gentle enough

 

[Pete999]

Shot run in a straight line not a problem perhaps your not gentle enough

"Gentle enough" please explain!

 

[The Ghost]

Can you sketch the layout. I know you say it's a small kitchen but it is where the most appliances live. Four sockets sound inadequate. Talk it through with your spark send him a nice piccy with the layout.

 

[Tony Reidy]

"Gentle enough" please explain!

If you have two fit 2 X 2.5 t+e in say 1500mm of 20 mm conduit as long as the cables are straight then they will fit easily with no lube in sight

 

[Pete999]

If you have two fit 2 X 2.5 t+e in say 1500mm of 20 mm conduit as long as the cables are straight then they will fit easily with no lube in sight

I agree if the tube is fitted to a wooden wall in a classroom. Lost count of the number of rewires I was involved in, where the buider has jumped the gun and stuck some conduit in and plastered over it, "sparky can get his wires up there no problem"

 

[cliffed]

20 mm will be fine.

 

[Pete999]

Shot run in a straight line not a problem perhaps your not gentle enough

How many dead straight runs have you come across in tube chased in and plastered over, only takes a little curve or deviation to spoil your day imo.

 

[Octopus]

A bit bizarre handing out step by step instructions to a DIYer ..

 

[GBDamo]

No problem with this

In fact you could go one step further and run in the cables to the various points and take the legs back to the board

Ready for the sparks to connect up

Youll have the union reps on you for that one.

 

[GBDamo]

No problem with this

In fact you could go one step further and run in the cables to the various points and take the legs back to the board

Ready for the sparks to connect up

Youll have the union reps on you for that one.

How will the "Sparks" be able to be sure the cabling has been installed correctly, and sign it off as satisfactory? this is a kitchen.

Pull it out, have a look and pop it back, if he's inclined to do so, I doubt he will be though.

If the job is small and as simple as the OP states then a cooperative, busy Spark would be only to happy to assist in making easier for all.

Some of the miserable old curmudgeons on here are a different story though.

 

[Pete999]

Youll have the union reps on you for that one.

What? in these cut throat days?

 

[GBDamo]

What? in these cut throat days?

True Pete, all those 17l970s strikes for having no bog roll have seriously buggered it up for all that followed.

 

[Timbo]

If you have two fit 2 X 2.5 t+e in say 1500mm of 20 mm conduit as long as the cables are straight then they will fit easily with no lube in sight

Just done that on a job, 20mm conduit straight into boxes, builder dot n dabbed over, plastered, then I cabled ready for 2nd fix.

Good luck getting 25mm conduit into your backboxes.

 

[Marvo]

A bit bizarre handing out step by step instructions to a DIYer ..

Yeah, we do have a 'step-by-step guide' rule but his question was specifically about the conduits, not the design of the circuit(s) and it didn't sound like he was about to do anything that needs signing off or anything illegal so I've let it run.

 

[Marvo]

'No Step By Step Guide'

 

[brianmoooore]

Good luck getting 25mm conduit into your backboxes.

Back boxes often have a 25mm knockout amongst the 20's.
(Wasn't me that resurrected the thread!)

 

[Timbo]

Back boxes often have a 25mm knockout amongst the 20's.
(Wasn't me that resurrected the thread!)

Not in a 25mm box.

 

[mainline]

Not in a 25mm box.

I wonder how the OP got on.
Maybe still waiting for the spark to turn up.

 

[brianmoooore]

Not in a 25mm box.

No sympathy for anyone who uses 25mm boxes.