JIB cards

[Vortigern]

Fortunately I am retired as of this month officially so it no longer concerns me. When the Part P came out I thought overnight I can now no longer do domestic. I carried on for quite a few years in defiance of it. However I did finally get into a scheme, no problem I might add. I think people forget that experience is paramount in being a rounded and competent anything. I have seen more than a few "qualified" people who are pants on site.

 

[7029 dave]

LOL its is laughable, with my old quals C&G 236 parts 1/2. 42 years experience , would just about get a labourer's card if I was lucky. (madness)

 

[Abacus614]

LOL its is laughable, with my old quals C&G 236 parts 1/2. 42 years experience , would just about get a labourer's card if I was lucky. (madness)

Agreed. Back in 2019 I did my 2396 L4 design and smashed it, well I got a merit anyway. Along with my PT1 and PT2 18th Ed as well as 2391 and in the eyes of the JIB I'll get a labour's card cos I lack the NVQ3 and AM2. Where under grandfather's right I'd expect to reach Technician status.

I admit 20yrs ago I didn't really take my apprenticeship seriously and was just glad of the money and experience at the time. Academically I struggled with the maths, strangley its something that seems to come quite easy to me now. Perhaps it was just concentration I lacked when I was younger.

However saying that I know lads who meet all the requirements of the approved electrician gold card and they are just useless at the most basic things. I've even caught them on you tube! At times. And fault finding you can forget it.

JIB it's old outdated. in my opinion experience will trump must qualifications anyway. But it certainly doesn't help the time served.

My advise don't worry about it if you don't need it. It took me a while to get over it, but in my case it was more the fact I wanted it rather than needed it.

 

[MJPD29]

Agreed. Back in 2019 I did my 2396 L4 design and smashed it, well I got a merit anyway. Along with my PT1 and PT2 18th Ed as well as 2391 and in the eyes of the JIB I'll get a labour's card cos I lack the NVQ3 and AM2. Where under grandfather's right I'd expect to reach Technician status.

I admit 20yrs ago I didn't really take my apprenticeship seriously and was just glad of the money and experience at the time. Academically I struggled with the maths, strangley its something that seems to come quite easy to me now. Perhaps it was just concentration I lacked when I was younger.

However saying that I know lads who meet all the requirements of the approved electrician gold card and they are just useless at the most basic things. I've even caught them on you tube! At times. And fault finding you can forget it.

JIB it's old outdated. in my opinion experience will trump must qualifications anyway. But it certainly doesn't help the time served.

My advise don't worry about it if you don't need it. It took me a while to get over it, but in my case it was more the fact I wanted it rather than needed it.

I've met some complete and utter idiots with gold cards. As long as you tick the right boxes they'll give it out without checking anything else. It's not worth the plastic it's printed on I've never had one and never will its laughable that people demand them.

 

[pc1966]

I've met some complete and utter idiots with gold cards. As long as you tick the right boxes they'll give it out without checking anything else. It's not worth the plastic it's printed on I've never had one and never will its laughable that people demand them.

The same applies to many other qualifications: at best they are a first-level filter when checking folk for a job, but you really need to see them work to find out for sure.

 

[David h]

Thanks for your replies. It is a money spinner. And I'm sure there are plenty of experienced sparkies out there whom don't have a jib card.
Just so disappointed the industry throws expensive hurdles in front of enthusiastic newer recruits.
So much for trying to solve the skills shortage.
The nvq thing really chuffs me off too.

I’ve just had to pay to get mine 1900 quid down the drain a wouldnt mind if ya learned something new but it really is a load of ----

 

[oscar21]

£1900? for a JIB card, I thought they were free or £30 or something like that, you must be nuts. Why put yourself in a position that needs a JIB card, just do a job that doesn't require one instead, who want to work on building sites anyway, way too much red tape and ---- regulations. Whenever I get asked to do a job and then they start asking for this and that I just say to them "look, I don't want your life story, do you want the job doing or not cock?".

To be fair I don't understand how it all works anyway or what benefit, if any it gives you, tradesmen can easily earn £1000+ a week just doing private work without any H&S or other bull, does anyone need to do anything else. Are we also saying that time served sparks that did years of training at college early on in their career/apprenticeship get called a labourer if they apply for one without going through modern and expensive exams? Again its all insane, the goalposts will move again shortly when they want another £1900 off everyone, when will people realise that no-one has ever complied their way to freedom.