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Living close to the Peak District we get lots of overcast weather, wind and rain helping keep our panels cool.
The weather here is very different to that found in the Midlands / Greater Manchester.
I wonder what people further north are observing?
Do Sanyo HITS outperform in Scotland in lower light / temperature v other panels?
 
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Q/ I own a Lotus car. My neighbor has a Ferrari - his car accelerates faster than mine and does a couple more miles to the gallon.

My question is:
Can I, should I change my Lotus for a Ferrari?
Would it be worth it, given his car accelerates marginally faster than mine and does more miles to the gallon?

A/ Yes you should, you cant afford to loose face with your neighbour.

Put common sense on the back burner, empty your wallet, spend lots of cash and make sure you buy something far superior to his - to regain your rightful standing in the neighbourhood.

:auto:

Why break you neck to try and get up to their level - bring them down to yours and torch his car / throw stones at his panels
 
Why break you neck to try and get up to their level - bring them down to yours and torch his car / throw stones at his panels

Or do what I have done on a holiday at a caravan park, throw bread on the roof next door at night, made our holiday more fun, and what goes in must come out, bird do do drops performance even on Sanyo's..
 
What has happened to he op?

Well, the first few posts answered his question (viz sanyo will have a better output on hot sunny days, but also come as a cost which hits ROI in the first 10-20 years; making any changes will be costly and reduce the FIT). Recent posts have been mocking the OP, so it isn't surprising he's taken his answer and gone away.
 
There have been some sensible suggestions
1) He can't change his panels without redcing his FiT so a sensible ROI on the total investment (changing panels) will never be achieved
2) He should check his current ROI and so long as he paid a sensible price and wasn't taken for a ride in the first place - he will generally have a better short term ROI than his neighbour.

- the only things that he can do without affecting his feed in tarrif relate to optimisation:
2) If going single inverter has he got the best matched one to his panels / string configuration / location / orientation / elevation
3) he MAY be able to improve output using panel based optimisation e.g. Solar Edge / Tigo - he can do both of those without affecting his FiT payments however it will require scaffolding and all the panels to come off the roof and be resinstalled.

The bottom line is he made his decision with the best information available to him at the time - based on the time and effort he put into the research he did himself at the time.

SO get on with it

It is a classic case of the grass is always greener / buyers remorse - it may not be a term you have heard of before, i can GUARANTEE that YOU have felt it at some time though!


Buyer's remorse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Home Buying - How to Avoid Home Buyer's Remorse
Avoid Buyer's Remorse - AskMen
 
I reckon it'd be interesting to actually monitor the panel temperatures through the year to see what proportion of the generation is produced above and below 25 degrees panel temperatures in the UK. Unfortunately this is a bit hard to achieve on a working system as any probe attached to the front of the panel would cause shading and output loss on the panel, and the rear of the panel is a lot cooler than the front in full sunlight. I might have a go at this though as we've got a solar water heating monitoring system running on our house which has spare sensor channels I could use.

I had a play last summer with a temperature probe underneath the panel and an IR thermometer from above - there was no discernible difference. Not much of a surprise really; the panels are quite thin.
 
Hi

I have a system fitted 18 months ago SMA 4000 inverter and 16 Sharp 250 panels. My neighbor has Sanyo panels - they are smaller but he gets more KW's than i do and we have identical roofs and face the same way

My question is can I change the existing panels for Sanyo - I was told this would invalidate my Feed In Tariff

Thanks for any help

The output of the system depends on the efficiency of the inverter, panel, sizing factor and installation. As long as everything else is the same but efficiency of the panel, it makes sense that the two systems have different output.

Sharp module has 15.2% efficiency.
Sanyo module has 18% efficiency and therefore higher price.

Bear in mind that your neighbour's capital cost was higher and the payback period will be slightly longer.
 

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