pricing pv jobs

[tombennetts]

hi all.

Pricing question -
looked at a pv job today for a last minute customer.

House is a 4 storey georgian townhouse for a 4 kw installation. Inside just coming towards the end of major renovation - whole house. Consumer unit is in the basement. Array would have to be split over 3 aspects due to the small size of each pitch. very difficult cable run to loft. Cannot be mounted externally, the only route is probably about 75m going to and fro to follow access paths (walls are all finished).

I gave her a price and was told someone had come in a hell of alot cheaper, I was quoting with external aurora power one inverter and 16 hyundai 245watt panels.

Anyone willing to say roughly what they would have put in for this?

Electrically i would allow 2 days, roofing maybe 3/4 plus access (scaffold!)

 

[dansk]

post it in sun lounge

 

[dansk]

maybe u cant.

 

[tombennetts]

hey?!?!?!

 

[moggy1968]

I'd walk away, some jobs are just too much hassle

 

[tombennetts]

i have, just trying to figure out if she is just trying to get me to drop my price, now she is offering to buy the gear online herself (found it for 5k including vat apparently, and they will supply to her) and pay us cash to install and certify!

 

[solarsavings]

tell her to do one.

 

[dansk]

ask her if she wants to buy your mcs registration whilst she at it.

 

[Earthstore]

And what happens if/when it goes wrong, do you go and put it right for nothing? What about all the testing kit you own, and all the other bits and bobs you use? How do you price that?
Also, I believe the rules have changed recently, so that one company has to follow the whole process from start to finish to comply to MCS (I could be wrong).
There are times when you need to walk away, and just wish them luck.

 

[dansk]

hey?!?!?!

not good to talk openly about install costs and supply cost, we have a private area to talk about prices called sun lounge, thats why i said that, but you need to be a member to get access which u dont have.

 

[Eco Deal]

WALK AWAY - Kelly Clarkson

 

[tombennetts]

a member of?

 

[dansk]

the secret handshake club, im messing with ya, you need to electrcians arms member http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...tricians-arms-alarms-forum-pv-sun-lounge.html

 

[tombennetts]

have walked away, just curious how someone can go that low on such a difficult job. its nearly as cheap as i did my dads for and i made nothing on that, i got no wages, only costs to him were the roofer,scaffold and the material. and his was straightforward!

 

[moggy1968]

I don't think there's aproblem discussing retail pricing on here, just not wholesale.

 

[SRE]

Cos they're idiots and as rubbish at maths as me!

 

[tombennetts]

all im after, and ill tell what she was quoted!

 

[jupestar]

have walked away, just curious how someone can go that low on such a difficult job. its nearly as cheap as i did my dads for and i made nothing on that, i got no wages, only costs to him were the roofer,scaffold and the material. and his was straightforward!

[FONT=Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]cause there salesman just sells at price list. doesn't discrimnate... the sales guy doesn't know it might need 70m 25mm swa, or two inverters... if the client is lucky the 'project manager' will highlight the job can't be done to his budget and return the deposit, if they are unlucky they'll get a cheap nasty install not to regs...

of course they could just be a really successful quality installer, which is so smooth, with so much volume that there precurement prices would make your eyes pop out..

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[moggy1968]

5k was just for the kit she was buying direct.
didn't cover installation costs
As I read it

 

[tombennetts]

thats right, but she has had a quote almost as cheap as it was to do my dads by me!

 

[moggy1968]

it only get worse now!!

 

[Markc]

Then you've lost nothing. Walk away knowing that.

No point working for nothing could stay at home and get that!

 

[moggy1968]

yep, got other things I can do

 

[SolarCity]

(found it for 5k including vat apparently, and they will supply to her) and pay us cash to install and certify!

A lot of PV suppliers do this. They don't understand the wholesaler/installer relationship and I simply will not use them.

Walk away. You wouldn't take a stack load of car parts and tell Ford to make you a car, would you?