Re suspended ceilings thread and the mess in it, before and after

[The Ghost]

Just a little update as @marconi expressed it may be interesting to see before and after on sargasso sea of cables above ceiling.

 

[Squid]

Looking a lot neater,

 

[telectrix]

go on then. where have you hidden the cables? or is it all been converted to wi-fi?

 

[Squid]

go on then. where have you hidden the cables? or is it all been converted to wi-fi?

He has Romany blood its in the back of the van to be sold for scrap, statics aren't cheap these days ;o)))))

 

[buzzlightyear]

are the cable behind your VORT , pic was taken .

 

[westward10]

Which one is before and after.

 

[Taylortwocities]

That fire sensor ain't going to work, up there!

 

[buzzlightyear]

Which one is before and after

me thinks top. vort the electrical Houdini
thought about joining the circus .

 

[Intoelectrics]

That fire sensor ain't going to work, up there!

Non of it works now its all ripped out, that's why the lead lamp is there

 

[Squid]

Lead lamp is worth money as well as the church lead you have stashed in the back of the van.....

 

[Gary K]

Lead lamp is worth money as well as the church lead you have stashed in the back of the van.....

And we wonder why people struggle with English when the same word means 2 completely different things!

 

[Squid]

And we wonder why people struggle with English when the same word means 2 completely different things!

Like LED vs LEAD?

 

[Gary K]

No.
Lead(lamp) and (church) lead.

 

[Squid]

You are/you're just being pedantic ;o))))

 

[telectrix]

Like LED vs LEAD?

as in:

 

[static zap]

And we wonder why people struggle with English when the same word means 2 completely different things!

And its quite plausible to beat self up with a pipe/armour made of one of them !

 

[Adam W]

You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead.

 

[Adam W]

Judging by the taped ends I'd say half those cables weren't doing anything anyway so could be stripped out.
The second picture is most likely of the other end of the corridor.

 

[telectrix]

You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead.

nope, it's graphite. .

 

[Squid]

Seems you are a fetish for ZL, a school mate once bought a car from John.

 

[Squid]

Maybe the customer will read this thread so we should rib Vortigen and squeeze some ££££'s ut of him? ;o)))))

 

[The Ghost]

You can just about see some conduit in the pic. I used this. It was the original wiring in red and black and re-instated it with a more modern twist. Got rid of all the crap and used the original I cannot begin to imagine what was in the mind of the person who did the wiring I ripped out. Took a bit of thinking about for the switches as the ceiling was at the exact height of all the inspection/junction boxes so could not get in them to feed cables into the old system So had to cut some Ts' into the existing conduit.

 

[The Ghost]

Judging by the taped ends I'd say half those cables weren't doing anything anyway so could be stripped out.

That was the old lighting wiring. It is a whole unit with two small offices in, not a corridor.

 

[The Ghost]

rib Vortigen and squeeze some ££££'s ut of him? ;o)))))

You can get blood out of a stone can you? And don't say yeh, throw it at someone that don't count.

 

[Wilko]

Simplest fix is to take a pic in the unit next door, I'm told .

 

[Squid]

You can get blood out of a stone can you? And don't say yeh, throw it at someone that don't count.

Too true every £ is a prisoner and always within reason look after number 1 and the family.

 

[The Ghost]

It is heartening and encouraging to see such incredulity and disbelief I must be good then if you can't beleive it is even the same place. Thank you all for your lack of confidence, it is most reassuring.

 

[Squid]

It is heartening and encouraging to see such incredulity and disbelief I must be good then if you can't beleive it is even the same place. Thank you all for your lack of confidence, it is most reassuring.

We are just being nice to massage your ego, *you ripped out and flogged usable cable to fund the PCM fee on the static and are doing a run on a customer as you need too please he missus with a weeks holiday to Benidorm.

*I maybe taking the proverbial...... ....... 'o))))))




Nice job by the way, its always a pleasure to see someone who takes care in their work.

 

[The Ghost]

*I maybe taking the proverbial...... ....... 'o))))))

I am sure you are, but in an amusing way. My day will come To be honest if you can spend a day with me and some of the guys I work with and keep your cool, you can handle this forum and the punishment with nourishment it hands out. I like the humour mostly.

 

[The Ghost]

the unit next door

is the same and worse.

 

[mydigitalhome]

So now they are nice and tidy and bundled together have the cables been derated due to grouping?

 

[The Ghost]

derated due to grouping

The cables are not grouped. Two ring circuits and one lighting circuit, each exist within its own conduit going into CU separately in 20mm conduit. I used the existing ring and split it in two for each half of the office and the lighting was already in its own trunking. The wiring I used has been there for twenty years and was put in when the building was built. Oh and by the way all checked out perfectly in testing. It was done properly originally and is still good after twenty years. That is why I wanted to get rid of the added on crap and revert to the original.

 

[pirate]

Re-use the old...replace the crap...leave a good, sound and safe job...
way to go, Vorti

 

[Squid]

Re-use the old...replace the crap...leave a good, sound and safe job...
way to go, Vorti

No need to bring your wife in to it......

 

[Squid]

I am sure you are, but in an amusing way. My day will come To be honest if you can spend a day with me and some of the guys I work with and keep your cool, you can handle this forum and the punishment with nourishment it hands out. I like the humour mostly.

Easy Peasy Vort, you haven't seen some of the Cee U Next Tuesdays that I have had to work with as a contractor, the sparky game is tame compared to the IT world.

 

[KEV 1 N]

That fire sensor ain't going to work, up there!

It’s common practice to install them in large voids above ceilings and service risers....although I often come across them with the covers still on when they’re situated in these sort of places.....commissioning bloke not being thorough!

 

[Timbo]

And we wonder why people struggle with English when the same word means 2 completely different things!

 

[Wilko]

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In my case these are complex questions that just don't have yes or no answers .

 

[Deleted account]

That fire sensor ain't going to work, up there!

Good practice to put fire detectors in false ceiling spaces just as it a good practice to put in lofts.

 

[westward10]

It will depend on the Category of system as to whether ceiling voids require automatic detection.

 

[Squid]

Rent the ceiling void out to a load of Somalians......... every £ is a prisoner.......

 

[Jjc]

Looking a lot neater,

How come cable appears to be running under the grid?

 

[Jjc]

That fire sensor ain't going to work, up there!

There fire detector head may be installed in ceiling void as protection but should have an indicator fitted to suspended ceiling

 

[Squid]

How come cable appears to be running under the grid?

The plumber saw a gap and ran a flexipipe in for the drinks vending machine. You know what they are like.......