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Isn’t a coach a motorised carriage - I’ll go for carriage bolt. What do we win?
@egg67 will be on in a minute with the answer ‘A1’ - ignore him ok?
 
Apparently they’re all the same so the universe is keeping us from sleep all for this twisted riddle - I’m not falling for it any longer!
Night night carriage bolt users!
 
It’s a coach bolt,when you join 2 pieces of timber with a dog tooth washer in the middle of the timbers and a square plate washer with nut on the other end the square lug pulls into the timber and prevents the bolt from turning........or so I heard anyway
 
Coach or carriage bolt,is correct,together with many other local and foreign terminology,some hailing from the transport job,some the building job,and extra terminology we took up,during input from overseas suppliers,such as during and just after WW2.

A coach set screw,is threaded the entire length,a coach bolt,has a plain shank,and is threaded for a percentage of it's end,10-25%.

Timber fixings,may still be described as either bolt or screw,but with a parallel or tapered wood type thread,will have a means of driving,such as a square,hex or internal driving form.

Gutter bolts are of small diameter,and have a slot or cross-slot,usually to hold the bolt,whilst tightening was achieved on the square nut.

I have an extensive library of engineering books,including standardised thread form history,and a series of Buck and Hickman catalogues,in mostly hardback,from the 1800'S to mid 70's.

So,anyway....that's what i spent me time do'in...whilst the rest of you were testing beer and honing chat-up lines...:p
 
‘Screws ‘normally have threads the full length. So a hex head bolt with full threads is actually a SET SCREW. Normally called ‘hex set’

If it has a shank (non threaded part) it’s a BOLT

That’s how I was told in my first job in a engineering stores.

It may or may not help to solve this riddle!
 
Hmm.
Coach bolts (which is what I would call them),
Carriage bolts,
Cup head bolts,
Mushroom head bolts.

Tapered bolts that you screw into wood, are called lag bolts, lag screws or coach screws.
 
I just had a peep at a listing from Nettlefolds,who were one of our longest standing engineering manufacturers of fixings.

Although looking identical,they list "Carriage Bolts" and "Cup Square Bolts" as different items.

Carriage Bolts,are listed up to 7/16" diameter and 16" long,and have no B.S.S number.

Cup Square Bolts,are listed up to 1 1/2" diameter and 12" long (additional lengths on request) and have a B.S.S number for both bolts and nuts,that is,an engineering specification in terms of strength and conformity,for use in engineering applications.

Anybody who has any questions regarding their selection of moulders brads,clyde dog eared steel brobs,or wrought iron holdfasts...just send me a telegram :)

(I have the telegraph and cable order code documents,which are fascinating...£40 in 1886,was coded "ketchup" ;) seems a long way from Skyping me pal in New Zealand,on an S9...)
 
I thought they were called M6 roofing bolts.
Usually roofing bolts don't have a square shank, but rather have slots on the dome head so a tool can be used to stop them turning rather than relying on the square shank pulling into the timber. This said I have heard, the terms coach, carriage, roofing, dome head... for all sorts of similar bolts and screws.
I guess its probably down to what ever is the most common traditional term local to your area.
 
here you go. square heads. :


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almost went for the security screws, the ones that will only turn clockwise in but cam out if an attempt is made to remove,
 
Haha Tel!
my favourite screws, those!

Many deacades ago the square socket screws were quite common in boatyards...those producing bespoke yachts, I mean.
Had to make sure the "slots" were tightened up just right, so they were "all square"!
Naturally, the modern square drivers are not a perfect fit...
 
are they like wall-dogs? or do they need plugs?
No, they still need wall plugs, but when you place a screw on the end of your screwdriver, you can literally do a somersault with it and it won't fall off.

Brilliant for screwing into ceilings etc.

They're colloquially known as screwlux
 
Just asking, cos when my local Homebase closed I bought loads of torx security bolts for pennies, and have used them on garage doors and outhouses, for fixing bolts and hasps, and they come with the driver bit...so far all seems good.
 
Just asking, cos when my local Homebase closed I bought loads of torx security bolts for pennies, and have used them on garage doors and outhouses, for fixing bolts and hasps, and they come with the driver bit...so far all seems good.
I've only ever used torx on white goods but I'd definitely say they're better.
 
Torx can be a pain in dirty conditions , the heads easily fill up with crap and in the right circumstances corrode the head . In good conditions they are good.
 

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