The great pat testing scam

[Kamikaze]

A dead give away is when the stickers are upside-down. Usually indicates the person has simply leant over the appliance without touching it.

 

[Adam W]

I did some PAT job which I was told all had to be done in a day because it had to be kept to budget.
There's me working my bottom off from 8am to 5pm, no breaks, pulling all the cables out to check them and get to the plugtops, where interestingly the previous tester hadn't stuck any of his stickers.
No fuse, wrong fuse, reverse polarity, plugtop on T&E... Missed those didn't ya sunshine?

 

[pattesting]

Hi I give 2 quotes one is for a full itemized list of all equipment with serial numbers and make and model fuse size and if changed what was one in it and any other repairs done and a certificate for each item.

Or a certificate just for all items tested with no full details done

 

[madmac]

This again is another example of the colleges and training providers making a quick buck by allowing any Tom,Dick or Harry do the C&G2377 and then tender for work as qualified Pat testers!!! when it was meant, as all of these courses were meant to be, as top up courses for experienced,qualified and competent electricians to get up to speed on the regulations and peculiarities of the job at hand.

 

[madmac]

Just been on a website for electrical qualifications and definitions.....and they are clearly saying that "domestic installer course" was simply to give kitchen fitters,plumbers,alarm engineers, etc a basic grasp of electrics so they could basically connect their equipment to a fcu! IT IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER DEEMS A DOMESTIC INSTALLER TO BE A COMPETENT ELECTRICIAN!!!
So all you guys that have paid thousands to these scam training providers and then believed their propaganda that you will be a qualified electrician have been lied to!!!

 

[Electricalserv]

Just been on a website for electrical qualifications and definitions.....and they are clearly saying that "domestic installer course" was simply to give kitchen fitters,plumbers,alarm engineers, etc a basic grasp of electrics so they could basically connect their equipment to a fcu! IT IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER DEEMS A DOMESTIC INSTALLER TO BE A COMPETENT ELECTRICIAN!!!
So all you guys that have paid thousands to these scam training providers and then believed their propaganda that you will be a qualified electrician have been lied to!!!

Madmac. No doubt you are correct in saying Domestic installers are not sparks. But the NICEIC are the only ones who call members Domestic Installers.

A Domestic Installer is someone who took a short course....Not to get mixed up with an electrician who works on domestics.

Btw the IET clearly state a DI with level 2 qualifications is not an electrician. A DI with a level 3 qualification is!

 

[madmac]

Btw the IET clearly state a DI with level 2 qualifications is not an electrician. A DI with a level 3 qualification is!

I also seen that and am now going to raise the issue with the union as the IET formerly the IEE have in the past not been able to clearly define what a competent person was and for them now with no consultation of the industry at large to declare that someone who completes a fast track training programme and then attains level 3 but may have no practical experience, is an "electrician" is quite honestly bordering on the laughable to say the least!

 

[Electricalserv]

Btw the IET clearly state a DI with level 2 qualifications is not an electrician. A DI with a level 3 qualification is!

I also seen that and am now going to raise the issue with the union as the IET formerly the IEE have in the past not been able to clearly define what a competent person was and for them now with no consultation of the industry at large to declare that someone who completes a fast track training programme and then attains level 3 but may have no practical experience, is an "electrician" is quite honestly bordering on the laughable to say the least!

Your right but how can you prove experience? From a previous employer? Well I'm sure that won't be as fool prrof as you think. Employers will be more than willing to lie for someones experience

 

[madmac]

Your right but how can you prove experience? From a previous employer? Well I'm sure that won't be as fool prrof as you think. Employers will be more than willing to lie for someones experience

I agree with you there mate, I wouldn't accept any word of mouth guarantee from a mob because the way this industry is at the moment there isn't an honest one amongst the whole shower! It brings me back to the tried and tested ways of proving experience and competency......Apprenticeship,adult trainee but basically any method where you gain your quals. and experience as a package and not one or the other, then when you get your grading and you want to jump around mobs you use the JIB/SJIB card/grading system as back up( not perfect either I admit), and you go to night school( as i have done on numerous occassions) to gain further qualifications in the industry that an employer will be looking for but over all it is a combination of all these things and not just quals. or someone saying you are experienced.

 

[alarm man]

Just been on a website for electrical qualifications and definitions.....and they are clearly saying that "domestic installer course" was simply to give ,alarm engineers, etc a basic grasp of electrics

cheers mac..:33: i know what you mean tho..:yesnod: