what documents should be completed after initial veritication?

[stuartcourt]

When I do an EICR, I quote a 7671 reg no being contravened for all defects.
For an installation, in 99% of situations, it's conform to 7671.
In this instance, NAPIT are not conforming to bs 7671. But I am sure they base their certificates on it.
Strange. Have they discovered something we don't know about. If so, surely their clients should know all about it and the reasoning behind it.

this is a practice to get others quote in my reply ignore me

worked it out now I can sleep

 

[GLENNSPARK]

When I do an EICR, I quote a 7671 reg no being contravened for all defects.
For an installation, in 99% of situations, it's conform to 7671.
In this instance, NAPIT are not conforming to bs 7671. But I am sure they base their certificates on it.
Strange. Have they discovered something we don't know about. If so, surely their clients should know all about it and the reasoning behind it.

i just wouldn`t be deviatin from BS7671 as if it all goes arse up....you cant wave Napit`s version of things in defence....
and i think this is a deviation.....

 

[ipf]

i just wouldn`t be deviatin from BS7671 as if it all goes arse up....you cant wave Napit`s version of things in defence....
and i think this is a deviation.....

Yep.....but is it a devious deviation ?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Yep.....but is it a devious deviation ?

well...i`d want to look at that `Napit minor works`...see whats on it....

 

[Kate]

well...i`d want to look at that `Napit minor works`...see whats on it....

I have it on my computer if you really want it

 

[Octopus]

I DO HOPE that NAPIT read this thread and offer up their opinion, as most of us think THEY have got it wrong. We can't criticise their members for being mislead but NAPIT should really toe the line on such a rule.

 

[onions1066]

Kate keep using the minor works if you are able too. Why make work for your self! The ECA form is the same.

 

[markc123]

Kate keep using the minor works if you are able too. Why make work for your self! The ECA form is the same.

It really isn't ... ive got the form in my hand now and it clearlly states on the ECA minor works.....THIS Minor Works Certificate is intended to be used for additions and alterations to an installation that do not extend to the provision of a new circuit.

 

[MDJ]

Only Crapit are suggesting a new ring final circuit can be classed as a minor Job with a minor works one page certificate, they need to get a grip with this before they are laughed out of the industry, Ive never known anything like it, what next? a rewire on a minor works LMAO, Dist board Change on a Minor works lol

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Only Crapit are suggesting a new ring final circuit can be classed as a minor Job with a minor works one page certificate, they need to get a grip with this before they are laughed out of the industry, Ive never known anything like it, what next? a rewire on a minor works LMAO, Dist board Change on a Minor works lol

well...in theory you could just keep adding circuits and certing each one individually with these `minor works`.....
look, a new circuit isn`t a minor works is it....

 

[stuartcourt]

how they class as small works beyond me in a domestic installation its pretty much the whole job

 

[Des 56]

The Napit Minor works/.Single circuit electrical certificate seems to contain the information required by the IET in their description of what is required to be included on the Electrical installation Certificate form No 1


Form No 1 is a condensed version of the much more comprehensive form No 2

What information, that may not be on the certificate do you suggest should be included
I very often hear moans about the volume of paperwork,yet there seems to be a yearning for complication where none may be essential


By the way,I use my dear friends certificates,the red jobbies

 

[Kate]

Only Crapit are suggesting a new ring final circuit can be classed as a minor Job with a minor works one page certificate, they need to get a grip with this before they are laughed out of the industry, Ive never known anything like it, what next? a rewire on a minor works LMAO, Dist board Change on a Minor works lol

Minor works is two page cert

 

[stuartcourt]

By the way,I use my dear friends certificates,the red jobbies[/QUOTE

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[MDJ]

Minor works is two page cert

LOL, Mine must be out of date then kate, apologies for that, as you can tell by my comment I don't do that many these days, all EICs really.

 

[Octopus]

Minor works is two page cert

Could you attach a blank one for us to peruse. I'm intreagued!

 

[Guest55]

By the way,I use my dear friends certificates,the red jobbies[/QUOTE

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

still not getting the hang of quoting yet ?
lol.

 

[Des 56]

There has been a few pages of opinions aghast at the sheer audacity to produce a user friendly form
If I had it on the computer,it would be my choice of form

All these scams generate forms that are made up as Glossy imitations of the IET model
The only essential needed is for the necessary info to be included

Reading the sheer amazement and envy displayed in this thread,it may be time for the Niceic to follow their lead

If you were to include the notes page,it would be a 3 page effort

 

[Guest55]

im amazed no-one bothers designing their own certs.
i have a couple of times when what was available was unsuitable.
its not that difficult.

 

[biggsy]

napit mwc for new circuit

View attachment napit mwc.pdf
not that i think its right napit mwc can be used for new circuit
also bs7671 forms are model to base forms on
gn3 states mwc not for new circuit