Basic stuff for basic blondes

[Sarz11]

Hey just wondering if anyone has got any nice simple examples in the form of questions that you can offer in regards to working out earth continuity. These formulaes are driving me insane and i need more things to look at. Il ask my tutor too but u lot know a bit so thought id see hehe. Im thinking bout dying my hair see if this helps that or the electric cable rnd the neck. Hehe no really just some things i can look at and try work out in my pretty little head coz its alright learning but iv got no one to show me at min and i need to be pro active. Ok rant over. BE NICE AND SIMPLE BASIC VIRGIN ALERT thanks. Obv im working too so il be checking and looking when can if ppl reply

thanks

Sar x

 

[dazza1981]

hey just wondering if anyone has got any nice simple examples in the form of questions that you can offer in regards to working out earth continuity. These formulaes are driving me insane and i need more things to look at. Il ask my tutor too but u lot know a bit so thought id see hehe. Im thinking bout dying my hair see if this helps that or the electric cable rnd the neck. Hehe no really just some things i can look at and try work out in my pretty little head coz its alright learning but iv got no one to show me at min and i need to be pro active. Ok rant over. Be nice and simple basic virgin alert thanks. Obv im working too so il be checking and looking when can if ppl reply

thanks

sar x

gooooooood morning!!!!!

 

[Sarz11]

Hey just wondering if anyone has got any nice simple examples in the form of questions that you can offer in regards to working out earth continuity. These formulaes are driving me insane and i need more things to look at. Il ask my tutor too but u lot know a bit so thought id see hehe. Im thinking bout dying my hair see if this helps that or the electric cable rnd the neck. Hehe no really just some things i can look at and try work out in my pretty little head coz its alright learning but iv got no one to show me at min and i need to be pro active. Ok rant over. BE NICE AND SIMPLE BASIC VIRGIN ALERT thanks. Obv im working too so il be checking and looking when can if
thanks

Sar x

I meant cpc continuity sorry blonde moment

 

[dazza1981]

Sarz do you mean you want to know how to test a circuit for cpc continuity???

 

[Sarz11]

gooooooood morning!!!!!

Good morning

 

[Sarz11]

Sarz do you mean you want to know how to test a circuit for cpc continuity???

Thats what im looking at silly. Working it out like one example is if the line was measured at 0.21 and the line to neutral reading waa 0.16 just calculating what id had to do. Now i dont know if this makes sense haha

 

[dazza1981]

Sarz have you got the green onsite guide yet???
Its just on page 93 gives quite a good explanation on cpc continuity and end to end resistances rather than me trying to explain. Im rubbish at explaining!!
But in a twin and earth cable the cpc is smaller therefore has a higher resistance without getting to technical about it!!

 

[Sarz11]

Sarz have you got the green onsite guide yet???
Its just on page 93 gives quite a good explanation on cpc continuity and end to end resistances rather than me trying to explain. Im rubbish at explaining!!
But in a twin and earth cable the cpc is smaller therefore has a higher resistance without getting to technical about it!!

I know that silly. Its being technical with me and hurting my brain. Um im not sure got so much im trying to look through at sum point but il have a look :0)

 

[Bobster]

In what way is it being to technical? Testing continuity is one of the simples tests there is!

 

[MDJ]

Hey just wondering if anyone has got any nice simple examples in the form of questions that you can offer in regards to working out earth continuity. These formulaes are driving me insane and i need more things to look at. Il ask my tutor too but u lot know a bit so thought id see hehe. Im thinking bout dying my hair see if this helps that or the electric cable rnd the neck. Hehe no really just some things i can look at and try work out in my pretty little head coz its alright learning but iv got no one to show me at min and i need to be pro active. Ok rant over. BE NICE AND SIMPLE BASIC VIRGIN ALERT thanks. Obv im working too so il be checking and looking when can if ppl reply

thanks

Sar x

buy a book about testing, that will be a good start.

 

[wozz]

What formulas you using? Are you talking about milli ohm / metre or testing for continuity?

 

[Sarz11]

In what way is it being to technical? Testing continuity is one of the simples tests there is!

Yes yes yes thus the topic i was working it all out got any examples smart arse if not then stop looking at my arse and make use of ursen somewhere!!

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buy a book about testing, that will be a good start.

Iv got one

 

[Sarz11]

Does no one get i wanted some simple equations to work out jeez just to make sure i was understanding

 

[Bobster]

Yes yes yes thus the topic i was working it all out got any examples smart arse if not then stop looking at my arse and make use of ursen somewhere!!

In English?

 

[Sarz11]

What formulas you using? Are you talking about milli ohm / metre or testing for continuity?

R u helpful?! um its all of them together so working out combined resistances of the line conductor and cpc then the line plus neutral then dividing that by 2 which would equal the resistance of the line? Then u subtract the first reading and that will b the resistance of that cpc. So they write it as (R1 + R2) - R1 = R2. Does this make sense. Im goin to bed i just wanted some examples so could work out and make sure iv got it! Its not the formulae its making sure i understand how its worked out

 

[dazza1981]

R u helpful?! um its all of them together so working out combined resistances of the line conductor and cpc then the line plus neutral then dividing that by 2 which would equal the resistance of the line? Then u subtract the first reading and that will b the resistance of that cpc. So they write it as (R1 + R2) - R1 = R2. Does this make sense. Im goin to bed i just wanted some examples so could work out and make sure iv got it! Its not the formulae its making sure i understand how its done

Sarz try a site called swindon massive. Theres lots of formula questions etc on there.
Dont know if it still exists but worth a shot!

 

[wozz]

I hope my posts are helpful or I'm wasting my time! Which isn't the first and won't be the last.

I believe you are correct assuming equal sized conductors. In twin and earth you will not have equal size conductors. Do you have access to the on site guide? Or have you been given any info on milli ohm per metre figures? It will be fairly easy to do a few examples uses them figures.

 

[Plonker 3]

Right, don't think there is any need for any sexist terms when a serious question is asked. If you are suffering from sexual tension, you obviously have access to the net so use that

Sarz what sort of stuff are reading, learning and struggling with?

could you list a copy of the books you have so we know what you are reading and if they are any good?

 

[Guest55]

Does no one get i wanted some simple equations to work out jeez just to make sure i was understanding

a 20 mtrs long 2.5mm cable with a 1.5mm cpc ( earth ) , is added to a 15 mtrs long 6mm cable with a 2.5 cpc.

using the values provided at the bottom , calculate

1. the total circuit resistance for the live conductor ?
2. the total cicuit resistance for the cpc ?

6mm = 3.08 milli ohms per mtr
2.5mm = 7.41
1.5mm = 12.1


hints
take your time
use a calculator and notepad ( unless your maths is on par with Dr. stephen hawkings )
break it down into managable sections

 

[shanky887614]

a 20 mtrs long 2.5mm cable with a 1.5mm cpc ( earth ) , is added to a 15 mtrs long 6mm cable with a 2.5 cpc.

using the values provided at the bottom , calculate

1. the total circuit resistance for the live conductor ?
2. the total cicuit resistance for the cpc ?

6mm = 3.08 milli ohms per mtr
2.5mm = 7.41
1.5mm = 12.1


hints
take your time
use a calculator and notepad ( unless your maths is on par with Dr. stephen hawkings )
break it down into managable sections

Remember line,neutral should be close to each other but cpc is normally higher as the resistance is higher


Remember one important fact, the osg figures are based on an ambient temperature of 20 or 30oC I forget which

The colder the temperature the lower the resistance

 

[Guest55]

Remember line,neutral should be close to each other but cpc is normally higher as the resistance is higher


Remember one important fact, the osg figures are based on an ambient temperature of 20 or 30oC I forget which

The colder the temperature the lower the resistance

oh shut up will you , i know damn well the bloody dynamics behind resistance calcs , its just a simple maths practise exercise for someone else

 

[Knobhead]

This is getting silly, one glance of totty and common sense goes out the window.

It will be fisticuffs in the quadrangle next.

 

[Plonker 3]

Sarz , if you want to be taken serious the answer the questions that have been asked to you in regards to your first post.

 

[Sarz11]

I hope my posts are helpful or I'm wasting my time! Which isn't the first and won't be the last.

I believe you are correct assuming equal sized conductors. In twin and earth you will not have equal size conductors. Do you have access to the on site guide? Or have you been given any info on milli ohm per metre figures? It will be fairly easy to do a few examples uses them figures.

U r helpful. Il have any information :0)!! Im here to learn

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'll offer help when you learn to write a coherent question.
I can't be arsed deciphering a load of blurb. Clear communication is key in things technical.

 

[Sarz11]

Sarz , if you want to be taken serious the answer the questions that have been asked to you in regards to your first post.

Um --- again? Can i just say some of you have been really helpful and i am being held at gunpoint but want to thank onions for explaining it easy thank you

 

[Sarz11]

Right, don't think there is any need for any sexist terms when a serious question is asked. If you are suffering from sexual tension, you obviously have access to the net so use that and you hand.

Sarz what sort of stuff are reading, learning and struggling with?

could you list a copy of the books you have so we know what you are reading and if they are any good?

I dint realise you actually gave a serious answer thanks. You can have a serious response. I literally just needed it explaining sometimes reading this bloody jargon gets confusing but it was explained. Im just starting out give me a break people :0)

 

[Sarz11]

a 20 mtrs long 2.5mm cable with a 1.5mm cpc ( earth ) , is added to a 15 mtrs long 6mm cable with a 2.5 cpc.

using the values provided at the bottom , calculate

1. the total circuit resistance for the live conductor ?
2. the total cicuit resistance for the cpc ?

6mm = 3.08 milli ohms per mtr
2.5mm = 7.41
1.5mm = 12.1


hints
take your time
use a calculator and notepad ( unless your maths is on par with Dr. stephen hawkings )
break it down into managable sections

i love you that is r helpful genuinely. Obv im stephen hawkings not my maths is being worked on

 

[Guest55]

are you going to bother to attempt or even acknowledge the practice equation i kindly provided , or just stand around arguing with every post someone makes ?

 

[Sarz11]

Remember line,neutral should be close to each other but cpc is normally higher as the resistance is higher


Remember one important fact, the osg figures are based on an ambient temperature of 20 or 30oC I forget which

The colder the temperature the lower the resistance

Well over my head but il ask you if it comes up

 

[Sarz11]

are you going to bother to attempt or even acknowledge the practice equation i kindly provided , or just stand around arguing with every post someone makes ?

I just did was goin through jeez give me a chance :0(

 

[shanky887614]

oh shut up will you , i know damn well the bloody dynamics behind resistance calcs , its just a simple maths practise exercise for someone else

I was posting this for other members benerfit you miserable old git

 

[BES]

Sarz
Basicly resistance decreases with csa of the conductor eg bigger the csa less the resistance and increases with length.
Think of the conductor as a hosepipe bigger csa quicker water flows so less resistance smaller the csa of hosepipe slower water flows more resistance

 

[Sarz11]

Sarz
Basicly resistance decreases with csa of the conductor eg bigger the csa less the resistance and increases with length.
Think of the conductor as a hosepipe bigger csa quicker water flows so less resistance smaller the csa of hosepipe slower water flows more resistance

Thank you x

 

[Sintra]

Right just to let you all know I am about to wipe out all posts that are off topic. All this sexual banter needs to stop. Have a laugh but keep it clean.

 

[GMES]

Right just to let you all know I am about to wipe out all posts that are off topic. All this sexual banter needs to stop. Have a laugh but keep it clean.

Sintra if you do that mate it will be an empty thread, all the guys have gone loopy it's like a scene from cocoon

 

[Plonker 3]

Right just to let you all know I am about to wipe out all posts that are off topic. All this sexual banter needs to stop. Have a laugh but keep it clean.

This is is the equivalent of your mum walking in on you isn't it.

 

[BES]

Right just to let you all know I am about to wipe out all posts that are off topic. All this sexual banter needs to stop. Have a laugh but keep it clean.

Is that because said about the csa of my hosepipe

 

[Sarz11]

Is that because said about the csa of my hosepipe

That was blooming helpful i hope not pwease sintra

 

[Sarz11]

Sintra if you do that mate it will be an empty thread, all the guys have gone loopy it's like a scene from cocoon

I was TRYING to learn to make a point its seriously not my fault i am not makin the comments i just rev up n cnt help mysen. im clearly like heroin addictive and will mess u lot right up!!! Hahaha divs

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I was posting this for other members benerfit you miserable old git

yes you were wern`t you....and even then it was laughable....you effectively stated the CPC reistance was higher...caus it just was ...lol

would this be the same for a 1.0 flat twin?

oh and by the way the resistance of the CPC is higher caus its CSA is smaller....

 

[Sarz11]

Just wanna say thanks to onions and biff55 i appreciate ur help with my learning and wanted to tell u

Sar x

 

[onions1066]

Just wanna say thanks to onions and biff55 i appreciate ur help with my learning and wanted to tell u

Sar x

Where you been hiding sarz you had a better offer else where. Whoever he is must be very entertaining to give us lot up.

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[Sarz11]

Where you been hiding sarz you had a better offer else where. Whoever he is must be very entertaining to give us lot up.

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Ah hahahahaha i havent been hiding iv been studying for once and i wouldnt give these old buggers up. Onions im gona chop you up and fry you!!!!!

 

[onions1066]

Ah hahahahaha i havent been hiding iv been studying for once and i wouldnt give these old buggers up. Onions im gona chop you up and fry you!!!!!

Promises promises I think your a big softy inside really. What you need is to chill out after all your studying and have yourself a massage. X

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[Sarz11]

U watch them kisses onions you might b accused of havin a soft spot for me!!'im male inside this female body so soft?! Pah. Hahaha dnt have time for a massage besides im fussy with who i give my time to re providing it this girl wnt have any old person x

 

[R G]

U watch them kisses onions you might b accused of havin a soft spot for me!!'im male inside this female body so soft?! Pah. Hahaha dnt have time for a massage besides im fussy with who i give my time to re providing it this girl wnt have any old person x

What a Classic Blow out ,,,

 

[Sarz11]

What a Classic Blow out ,,,

Hahaha aw no poor onions i dint mean it like that.....

 

[trev]

So did you come up with an answer Sarz? You'll have to show all the workings out if you want all the marks.

 

[Sarz11]

So did you come up with an answer Sarz? You'll have to show all the workings out if you want all the marks.

Iv done the first bit and am gonna do the second bit tomoz as i wana just make sure i no wat im doing then il put it up is that ok trev? U remembered :0)