Connecting a fan to shower power

[MDJ]

OK, I may be seeing light at the end of the tunnel finally.:clap:


Am I right in saying, as Geoffsd says, that technically speaking there is no reason why a shower cable cannot be used to supply another circuit if all calculations are OK. But it’s not recommended as all cables should have minimal breaks and joints in them, which may cause problems.


If this is the case, I understand but I couldn’t understand why I was getting ‘no you can’t do it’ but without a reason, hence I couldn't get my head around it. Any other reasons?

The current sensing device as you guys have stated would have been my best option to deal with my job brief, but I just expected some sort of readily made device for sale not me making it from scratch. I feel a trip to Dragon's Den may be in order
I can't believe others have not had to same problem.

Good man welcome to the forum, I did answer your question earlier to be fair, the answer was we just do not do it, it is creating a joint on a dedicated circuit supplying a heavy load in a bathroom, anyhow you have now seen sense and again welcome aboard.

 

[MDJ]

I think my stay here will very very brief
time and too little knowledge. If you don't know why something is so then just say so or, better still, don't post a comment.

Don't trip over the rug on the way out
The answer was given several times, are you struggling to read as well as seeking attention here, off you go then :waving:

 

[boyo99]

Don't trip over the rug on the way out
The answer was given several times, are you struggling to read as well as seeking attention here, off you go then :waving:

Totally predictable. Have a nice day.

 

[MDJ]

Totally predictable. Have a nice day.

And you to, take care.

 

[micknew]

Totally predictable. Have a nice day.

Oh dear look out 'toys out of pram' time lol

 

[DPG]

If I've read things correctly this is a low power circuit running a pump, and is not on a 6mm cable. Bearing this in mind, I can see why the OPs is asking for reasons why it is bad practice to feed another item of low power equipment from this same circuit. Daz

 

[telectrix]

looking at post #1, there's no mention of shower pump, just shower.

 

[DPG]

Apologies, I think I must have read something in another post and got confused. Is it Friday yet?!?!

 

[MDJ]

Apologies, I think I must have read something in another post and got confused. Is it Friday yet?!?!

If this thread didn't Confuse you I would be worried, it confused the hell out of me lol

 

[telectrix]

it's all that chemicals in your creamflow, mike. get yersell 6 bottles of theakstons old peculier. you won't want creamflow again.

 

[MDJ]

I tried some Londons pride last week Tel and didn't like it, had some old peculiar the week before actually and it was quite a nice drop.

 

[Silly Sausage]

2 bottles of OP and MDJ won't know if he's Mike or Mark.

 

[DPG]

Try Hobgoblin Mike. V. nice. Daz

 

[Knobhead]

I tried some Londons pride last week Tel and didn't like it, had some old peculiar the week before actually and it was quite a nice drop.

Why doesn't that surprise me.


As for this thread, what can I say? It's about time it was put out of it's misery.

 

[Guest55]

why anyone would want to drink something named after a creature from lord of the rings is beyond me
stick to heiniken , worlds best lager , job done.
B-)

 

[DPG]

World's best lager? They're all the same aren't they????

 

[MDJ]

Hey Biff, nice to see you about again M8, You would have trashed many a thread here lately, the standard is now worse than ever.

 

[Silly Sausage]

why anyone would want to drink something named after a creature from lord of the rings is beyond me
stick to heiniken , worlds best lager , job done.
B-)

Now you are trolling!!!

 

[Guest55]

Hey Biff, nice to see you about again M8, You would have trashed many a thread here lately, the standard is now worse than ever.

Thanks , well now that i quit my job yesterday after jacking on the spot i dare say i can spare more time to give your slack posts the --- raping they deserve.
and yes , i've noticed its all gone a bit jeremy kyle show round here in my absence , not unsurprisingly.
Youre more likely to find me on chess.com these days insulting jonny foreigner lol.


as for "all lagers are the same" ?
er......

;-)

 

[Guest55]

Now you are trolling!!!

your new avatar pic suits you , it creates a more intellectual look than your normal self...........
;-)

 

[guest119]

Stella (wife beater ) for me every time.
Lambrusco (leg opener) for her.

Boydy

 

[MDJ]

Lambrusco (leg opener) for her.

Boydy

You haven't been married long, I say whatever she drinks after 20 years it is like banging a back of potatoes these days :smilielol5:

 

[tazz]

Is this thread still going....?.......should rename it as the new chit chat Tread

 

[MDJ]

Well there is so much Bull Sh*t in this thread we may as well add more to it haha

 

[GMES]

we owe it to the op to get it at least to 200 replies

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

It's not really going to be hard now beer is on the talk. Stella 4% so vu plai!

 

[ipf]

It's not really going to be hard now beer is on the talk. Stella 4% so vu plai!

S'il vous plait.....merci beaucoup.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Bien meisour.

 

[Silly Sausage]

It's not really going to be hard now beer is on the talk. Stella 4% so vu plai!

If you're going to sup Belgium beer, at least drink something decent, NOT that S4 garbage...

http://www.roughguides.com/article/top-twenty-best-belgian-beers/

 

[ipf]

Good moaning....Good Moaning Compilation - YouTube

 

[overskilled]

Beer is something I've tried repeatedly and cannot acquire a taste for...rum and whisky on the other hand...is more my thing...along with the occassional cider...

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

JD if I am drinking shorts, single barrel mind!

 

[MDJ]

We drink Beer down here, I have to admit though that I am partial to a Cider in the summer, I like dry cider, plenty of Cider farms around here and Somerset which is 45 mins away, Rich's farmhouse cider is nice, in fact very nice I like a flagon of sweet mixed with the dry, it goes down a treat

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

What's that cider called they all drink in Cornwall, something to do with a snake?

 

[Toonlad]

Charge 10 for effect,, and a shameful bump lmao

 

[Knobhead]

I’ve had to stop drinking beer. My local has a good, ever changing range of local real ales but I can’t drink them. I used to but my health forced the change to Bloody Mary’s.

My recipe:
2 shots Vodka
3 to 6 drops Tabasco
Good shake of White Pepper to taste
Celery Salt to taste
Tomato juice
No Worcestershire sauce!

In a ½ pint tumbler, add the Tabasco, pepper and celery salt. Fill with ice, add the vodka then the tomato juice to fill the glass. With the ingredients in first they don’t float on the top but make sure you stir it first because if you drink it with a straw, a mouthful of pepper and Tabasco is one hell of a wake up!

The barmaid, Dawn, can do the drink perfectly. The landlord just puts the ingredients on the bar for me to work the magic. There is no correct way to make the drink. I went in to another local pub and the barman made the drink how he thought should be made, he then went on to lecture me on the subject. He ended up wearing it.

The threads go totally off topic, I’ll just push it a bit further over the edge.

 

[MDJ]

What's that cider called they all drink in Cornwall, something to do with a snake?

Snake bite, lager mixed with cider, not cornwall but everywhere to my knowledge.

 

[DPG]

Barnsley cocktail: Beer, mix with more beer. Add beer to taste. Daz

 

[mechelec]

It has been interesting reading this thread. I have taken the supply for my fan from the shower circuit. It is 2.5 mm t and e taken from the supply side of the 45 A switch. As far as I'm concerned it is fine. RCD protected circuit, reduction in CSA yes but less than 3 meters from point of reduction, not subject to overload as it is to a FCU fused at 3A as per reg 434.2.1 been like it for years. I can't see a problem with it. In busbar chambers the tap off cables to switch fuses are never usually rated to the OCPD for the BB supply. Same thing really. It is common in many control panels to find small control wiring taken from open switch fuses of greater rating than the cable current carrying capacity again because there is OCPD on the load end of the wiring.

I am not a DIYer or Electrical Trainee so let's have your comments.

 

[mechelec]

WTF just seen you have all lost interest in this subject.

 

[KAS1]

All I can say is there's some rough sparks about these days, I'd sack the first chancer to do that on a domestic shower install. Lets close this thread now..........

 

[Geordie Spark]

WTF just seen you have all lost interest in this subject.

What was the subject??

 

[mechelec]

All I can say is there's some rough sparks about these days, I'd sack the first chancer to do that on a domestic shower install. Lets close this thread now..........

Please enlighten me then as you are clearly an electrical genius. Oh and please give regulations and sound electrical reasons for it not to be done. Don't just say it's rough let's have some indication you actually know why it shouldn't be done and are not just following the pack.

 

[DPG]

Oooh, it's going to get interesting now. Daz

 

[KAS1]

I can feel a ban coming on lol Why not wire a clock point or maybe a 5amp socket from your shower circuit, the possibilities are endless FFS common be real

 

[mechelec]

I can feel a ban coming on lol Why not wire a clock point or maybe a 5amp socket from your shower circuit, the possibilities are endless FFS common be real

OK still no technical reason then.

You could could not wire a socket as it could be subject to overload. A clock point ? Well you give me a reason why not !!!!!!!
Come on show some electrical knowledge not just give flippant comments which seems to be all you usually come up with looking at your other threads.

 

[Geordie Spark]

S'il vous plait.....merci beaucoup.

Silver plate mercy buttercup ................ what the hell's that all about??

 

[R G]

Please enlighten me then as you are clearly an electrical genius. Oh and please give regulations and sound electrical reasons for it not to be done. Don't just say it's rough let's have some indication you actually know why it shouldn't be done and are not just following the pack.

Its all unorthodox , I mean why bother with any dedicated circuits , why not have a couple off circuits and install fused spurs all over the house , and whos gonna be able to label the DB , you would have a list as long as your arm , just where would it end if you allowed one thing , why not allow more and more . We all want to go to a dis board an isolate what the circuit says , but how can you when you can spur off anything you like ,,,

 

[KAS1]

Carry on, regardless, I give up..................nothing wrong in your eyes so yep just carry on, loop a fan from a shower supply, That's the sort of trick I'd expect from a DIYer not a skilled Electrician !!!!!!!!!!!! That's hardly flippant comments, why not have a changeover switch so when the sower is off it could feed say a water heater or maybe a light with a label to state shower not In use .................

 

[MDJ]

section 314 can be interpetrated several ways, It speaks volume to me, as does professional installation work, all this cowboy talk has worn me out, do what you like I don't care, if you are happy and think your right then good for you, funny how only the guys who have done this type of work defend it, good night and I hope your home doesnt burn down.