Educating people about poor practices?can it be done?

[IQ Electrical]

Well,a SLIGHT breakthrough.
At the moment the only time jobs are recorded anywhere accessible is when were night shift and only by the shift craftsmen like myself.
This is frustrating cos if there's a major issue or even a job that you have to leave there's never any feedback as to what was done to repair it.
I was summoned to the head of the electrical department upon arrival Thursday night for a different reason but the manager had a chat and asked me how things were going,bear in mind ive only been here since march.
I explained my frustrations and concerns and he said that their about to introduce a dayshift log that every spark has to fill in for breakdowns etc,also if they've repaired a job then they need to communicate what they've done etc.
I mentioned my concerns at the lack of proper apprentice training and he agreed whole heartedly so I'm going to suggest to him when I get back fro
my long weekend that perhaps I make up a little test just to see how much/little they know.
Also,it's quite quiet there right now and I've identified a machine that would be good to put a few faults on and let them find and fix them.
Baby steps,but going the right way at last.

Some excellent ideas, this is how good procedure starts, let's hope everyone sticks to it!

 

[silva.foxx]

I mentioned my concerns at the lack of proper apprentice training and he agreed whole heartedly so I'm going to suggest to him when I get back from my long weekend that perhaps I make up a little test just to see how much/little they know.

I have a test you could possibly use, it may be a little advanced for a trainee though. I don't want to make it a world wide web test so PM me and I'll pass you a copy.

Also,it's quite quiet there right now and I've identified a machine that would be good to put a few faults on and let them find and fix them.
Baby steps,but going the right way at last.

This whole unstructured, improper apprentice training is something I'm working on to correct at the minute. I've bitten off quite a chunk to be fitting in with shiftwork, family time and hobbies but I'm making strides and positive waves. I'm doing a lot of writing, photographing and printing. Some of the stuff I'm picking up is like re-apprenticing myself. As you quoted above, using a machine you have on-site is a good step. What I'm doing is some theory and bench work, then relating that to on-site machinery before having a test or task on it. All bench work is incorporating fault scenarios, so rather than see how a DOL works, the App. will find out why is doesn't work, etc...

 

[vaughant]

Thanks lads.
To be fair silva,their practical knowledge and workmanship is pretty good,but I pointed out a symbol for a relay coil on a diagram last month and not even one of them knew what it was,which is worrying.
There's no real testing for them there,by that I mean examinations.
Ok,looking back I had a great apprenticeship but we were tested all the time I was there,usually a weeks theory then a weeks phase tests,and they put some right ******* faults on,return or 0v wires put into a contactor with just the insulation on,no copper but visually looked ok,wires swapped round in terminal strips,coils removed from inside relays,all manner of stuff really.
A pm of the test would be great though.