How long to second fix a socket?

[iconnect]

I am pricing a massive rewire and the easiest way is to break it down so I have allowed 20 mins to second fix a socket or switch do you think that is fair? I have never priced a domestic as big as this only ever commerical!! I am finding it wierd lol

 

[Sintra]

I would tend to be less generous and allow 15 minutes per item.


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[Phil]

some of the apprentices have what they call the radio song rule, one socket or light switch per song or the gaffers on their back. guess thats about 3 and a half minutes for them then without upsetting the boss

 

[james king]

20 mins to 2nd fix a socket???? try 2mins

 

[sjm]

I was thinking 10 mins would be more than generous

 

[Colin Integrale]

Definitely radio.

 

[Hawk81]

20 mins to second fix a double socket??? I could have 10 done in that time

 

[james king]

thats what i thought, we must be doing it wrong lol

 

[simpson93]

3 sockets in an hour is abit slow ? only have 1 arm? hehe
but imo i would give yourself 5 mins per socket being generous.

 

[iconnect]

I know it sounds a lot I can do one in no time but you have to factor not all sockets are next to each other and allow for picking the ends up and moving to the next one !! I have had this conversation with people before when I used to price jobs people would say that only takes 2 mins but when you ask them to complete it they very rarely come up with the goods maybe 10 mins would be better on reflection !!

 

[TPES]

some of the apprentices have what they call the radio song rule, one socket or light switch per song or the gaffers on their back. guess thats about 3 and a half minutes for them then without upsetting the boss

I thought my old firm was the only one who did this, ha ha

Good method I think

 

[Hawk81]

It must be a big house with the sockets well spaced out if it takes around 8 mins to pick up some ends and walk to the next socket

 

[iconnect]

Ha Ha but serious its massive lol I love how all us sparks have balls the size of mellons I wish we could all meet up and have a race and see the quality of these 2 min second fix sockets lol

 

[SirKit Breaker]

1 hour per room max as an average. I go round and prep all the cables at each outlet first, then go round again and fix the accessories, and leave them loose till testing is out of the way. I tie a carrier bag to myself to put all the crap in as i go.

 

[james king]

no stil 2mons with clean up aswell

 

[Sparky Ninja]

When I used to work for a council we used to book work in as minutes. We were given 6minutes for a socket, 3 for each gang of a switch and 21 minutes for a FCU (don't ask why).

When I priced work privately I just be realistic and understand that there are too many variables and so estimate time according to the room when it comes to second fixing, not each point.

 

[Hawk81]

Ha Ha but serious its massive lol I love how all us sparks have balls the size of mellons I wish we could all meet up and have a race and see the quality of these 2 min second fix sockets lol

I can asure you I can do it in 2mins and it is a top quailty job.

 

[cbw]

Wander round with a cardboard box, cutters, long nose pliers and stripers,prepare all cables and tidy as you go, then go back and fit all the sockets.

 

[iconnect]

Widdler I am the same but for some strange reason this job I have gone at it different I have started something here I would say I am quick not as quick as I used to be. I am also know that the sum of the parts does not always add up hence you allow longer than it would take. I have seen sparks tell me how they are going to do this and do that and at the end of the day they have not finished and stand there wondering where the day has gone

 

[iconnect]

Just out of interest how long for a rewire of a 3 bed house average spec

 

[james king]

me and my boss have done 1 in 4days fully furnished

 

[iconnect]

I have done them in five days on my own hard slog but done right all the same! I am getting older and starting to notice the sixth day looms a lot lol

 

[Andyfm]

I used to work with another spark when we were first qualified (and younger and fitter) and we used to do a three bed rewire in two days back in the eighties (not so many sockets or lights etc back then), and regularly we`d do two in a week and have friday off

 

[dan jones]

i would say 10 min because fair enough it wouldnt take long to 2nd fix a socket but think if you had a 3-gang 2-way switch or a 2 gang intermediate it would take a little longer to do that especially for apprentices so i would say 10 atleast if you do it quicker its a bonus

 

[SirKit Breaker]

3 to 4 days to rewire the average semi using 2 sparks, and 1 labourer, plasterer half day as well. Have done them in 2 and a half, but i am getting a bit older, and dont do 14 hours days anymore.

 

[nickblake]

Had an apprentic one who took 2 hours to second fix one socket ,he was a right know it all ,didnt say a thing, so i let him get on with it , wasnt till my 14 year old daughter did one next to him in about 5 mins that he grunted something never again , on re wires , i dont work fast anymore we could do it in 5 days start to finish if the house was empty but now adays the rewires i do tent to be occupied full of junk so it takes 2 weeks , had one that took 4 weeks a small bungalow took 2 days to empty a loft to get 1 wire in never seen anything like it lol

 

[tomxhug]

I timed 15 sockets on a second fix in a house 2 floor extension, average of 8 Mins per socket allowing for moving between rooms picking up sockets etc. Dado trunking however is a lot quicker, nice height on bending down, sockets in a bag on your tool belt, 2-4 mins.

 

[Voltimax]

Right, reading with interest and I'm amused by all those supermen who claim to be so fast.

If you had all your tools there in front of you and the accessory and timed yourself, then yes, 2mins is achievable.
However what happens when you have to move from point to point? You do the same time? Rubbish!
What about when you have to clean the plaster out of the box?
What about when the lugs need re-threading?
What about when an adjustable lug is missing?
What about when you run out of sleeving, so have to get some more from van?
What about when the cables to a switch have been marked incorrectly, or someone (plasterer) has cut them shorter. Time to get the continuity tester out.

Luckins and Spons use 18 mins per socket front and with the examples above you can see why. That 18-20 mins isn't really just for the socket, it's for all the unforeseen problems too.

 

[DaveyD]

I tie a carrier bag to myself to put all the crap in as i go.

Good idea, cuts down on site toilet hire.

 

[jaresquire]

Must be ex military!

 

[sjm]

So when are we going to have the re-wire olympics?
Some of these guys are more impressive than Usain Bolt.

 

[Paul.M]

If this was record breakers in perfect conditions then one per minute is fine but in reality I think 4 per hour is about right, any more is a bonus. It's the case of want happens if? Back boxes could need refitting, short cut cables, lugs not fitting correctly loads of things can go wrong and takes extra time to sort out. If your pricing this up for yourself I would think 4 an hour (with travelling in between rooms) if your prepared with all the tools with you, sleeving, back boxes, lug screws and an extra socket incase you crack/damage one whilst going round. My works give me ten minutes per socket change, sometimes I do it, sometimes I don't. Each one is different but always nice to get an easy change of sockets.