Insulation colours.

[Zakery]

Is it ok to use red and black Twin and Earth if brown and blue sleeving is used at termination points ? This is a first post for me so be gentle chaps.

 

[rapparee]

You should apply too join the diy section of the forum

 

[GMES]

Shotgunsteve , the op is a retired electrician not a diyer, please be polite to new members.

 

[Guest666]

I apologise. No offence meant.

 

[Paul.M]

I apologise. No offence meant.

Fair enough, no harm done. It is in his profile and not on his post. Maybe an old reel of cable he has knocking around.

Thanks for the team work GMES.

 

[Zakery]

You should apply too join the diy section of the forum

Having retired from the electrical fraternity many years ago I now find I have a question and was pointed in the direction of the forum for speedy answers, I will assume from your reply that you don't know or are just not the helpful kind. So much for my first post.

 

[HandySparks]

Is it ok to use red and black Twin and Earth if brown and blue sleeving is used at termination points ? This is a first post for me so be gentle chaps.

If it was in an installation that already contains red and black T&E, I wouldn't even sleeve it. Maybe not strictly to the current regs, but I don't see this as a safety issue.

 

[Zakery]

Fair enough, no harm done. It is in his profile and not on his post. Maybe an old reel of cable he has knocking around.

Thanks for the team work GMES.

As you have said I tried to put all the worries of the world of work behind me and any mention of reg's etc upset the somewhat easy life I was trying to find but I have been put in a situation where there is a quantity of 1.0 mm T & E available to use and I am not wanting to trawl through loads of info' when I have been shown this forum especially when I've a life to lead

 

[Guest666]

I suppose strictly speaking as long as you identify the cables at the termination points then I cannot see an issue. However I personally would not install this cable.

 

[Paul.M]

As you have said I tried to put all the worries of the world of work behind me and any mention of reg's etc upset the somewhat easy life I was trying to find but I have been put in a situation where there is a quantity of 1.0 mm T & E available to use and I am not wanting to trawl through loads of info' when I have been shown this forum especially when I've a life to lead

First of all Zakery welcome to the forum. Rapparee was only informing you that we have a DIY section which your question looked like. After looking at your profile and seeing you are a retired ONC Electician (most people dont look at that but I'm a bit sad, and its part of my duties). Retired Electricians have a certain status on this forum, dont judge us just yet, we are nice people.


Of course you can use any colour cable you want to sir, only thing you have to do with todays Regs is identification of conductors at each terminal. I might be tempted to give the old reel a 500V IR test first just for peace of mind after being in storage for a while but it will be fine.

 

[tgtworsley]

I would use it and sleve each end

 

[Leesparkykent]

And stick one of these to the DB if you do end up with old and new colours in the installation.

 

[Octopus]

I would ask why are you installing old colours???

 

[Zakery]

Many thanks to all for your help, I will ensure the cable that has been installed is sleeved and add the notice to the cu, the rest of the cable can be scrapped. The wiring was already in before I was aware of the colours.

 

[D Skelton]

I would ask have you any drums you can sell me?

 

[Paul.M]

I have been put in a situation where there is a quantity of 1.0 mm T & E available to use

I would ask why are you installing old colours???

Retired sparky with a few reels still in storage I guess. I'm just waiting for the first person to ask if it is notifiable work and covered under part-p!!!!! Be nice to the new member please, after all he has been a sparky most of his life.

 

[Plonker 3]

And stick one of these to the DB if you do end up with old and new colours in the installation.

Why? Do they not teach you to use your head any more at college?

Any spark should be aware of cable colours without a sticker telling them that there maybe a difference in them on a install

 

[Guest666]

Why? Do they not teach you to use your head any more at college?

Any spark should be aware of cable colours without a sticker telling them that there maybe a difference in them on a install

Good practice?

 

[Plonker 3]

Good practice?

what making a DB look like a Panini sticker album?

 

[Leesparkykent]

Why? Do they not teach you to use your head any more at college?

Any spark should be aware of cable colours without a sticker telling them that there maybe a difference in them on a install

True but it's a reg 514.14

 

[Guest666]

what making a DB look like a Panini sticker album?

Lol!

We also should know that there is 230 volts at a single phase distribution board. Still has a warning label on it though.

We live in a world where we need to install 'mind your head' signs on low ceilings so in perspective the harmonisation label seems obvious.

 

[Guest666]

True but it's a reg 514.14

If you know that from the top of your head there is something wrong with you? Lol!

 

[Leesparkykent]

If you know that from the top of your head there is something wrong with you? Lol!

Lol no not from the top of my head but on the EICR forms I have on an app on my iPad which I'm on now it is listed.

 

[Plonker 3]

True but it's a reg 514.14

Well thats it then, we must abide by every word the regs say. I had better go and get me some stickers and go and fit them on all the jobs I have done where there has been a cross over in colours because someting bad may happen.

Lol!

We also should know that there is 230 volts at a single phase distribution board. Still has a warning label on it though.

We we live in a world where we need to install 'mind your head' signs on low ceilings so in perspective the harmonisation label seems obvious.

Unfortunately if you believe all this "we need telling everything" attitude to society then there is something very long with life it self.

 

[Guest666]

Well thats it then, we must abide by every word the regs say. I had better go and get me some stickers and go and fit them on all the jobs I have done where there has been a cross over in colours because someting bad may happen.




Unfortunately if you believe all this "we need telling everything" attitude to society then there is something very long with life it self.

Hey man. I don't make the rules. I just follow them.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Well thats it then, we must abide by every word the regs say. I had better go and get me some stickers and go and fit them on all the jobs I have done where there has been a cross over in colours because someting bad may happen.




Unfortunately if you believe all this "we need telling everything" attitude to society then there is something very long with life it self.

Yea maybe you should then lol. I keep a reel of mixed colour stickers in the van so it's not really no hardship to me to stick a sticker on the DB at a cost of a few pence haha.

 

[Octopus]

Tbh putting the colours sticker on the cu now is a waste of time and money. I think I'm going to stop putting them on from Monday.

 

[Plonker 3]

Hey man. I don't make the rules. I just follow them.

Just because its wrote in a book you pay alot of money for doesnt mean you have to you know.

 

[Plonker 3]

Yea maybe you should then lol. I keep a reel of mixed colour stickers in the van so it's not really no hardship to me to stick a sticker on the DB at a cost of a few pence haha.

You do realise that the BGB is neither mandatory nor statutory, but just a guide dont you?

 

[Guest666]

Just because its wrote in a book you pay alot of money for doesnt mean you have to you know.

Yeah I know. Just because there are double yellow lines outside my local shop doesn't mean I can't park there. Just means if I do I run the risk of a fine.

I choose to to follow the book to the best of my ability. If you don't. Makes no difference to me.