Jib grading

[sbrown2]

I agree, but obviously the JIB has to set some standards or whats the point. I think the point is, vocational qualifications upto level three are standard for giving a good rate of craftsmen/technicians. Whereas if you have your degree you would maybe jump to the management/engineering roles which are still assessed by the JIB but with differing vocational and academic requirements. You would also maybe looking at alternative registration with the, lets say IET, with designatory letter, lets say MIET and CEng.

They are all worthwhile qualifications its just where you fit in.

 

[j.mawer]

Sorry last comment was a general observation not with regard to JIB, I get the practical bit for that.

 

[tonys]

Steve - Why an earth do you want a JIB ticket when your an Electrical Engineer with Electricians skills. Your well above a JIB Approved Electrician.

J.mawer - A piece of paper illustrates a level a person as achieved, whether it be on the theory side or practical side. I find the biggest critics and moaners are the ones who think they are entitled to something but do not meet the criteria. This is not a dig at you, but everybody knows the rules.

 

[j.mawer]

tonys my original question really because I didn't know the rules (OK I had a pretty good idea as I had read the website), I now know them (very clearly) and really am not trying to suggest they should be anything else! Thanks for your help. You were correct by the way I cann't bend a bit conduit and having tried a couple of times have the up most respect for those who can ! also don't have 2391 either so it was embarrassingly an academic question which I actually quite regret asking

 

[tonys]

J.mawer - Don't take any of my posts as a dig mate, also there not always serious either.

 

[yido81]

while we are on the subject of JIB grading, ive been in the industry for ten years now, and i got my 2360 part 1 back in 2003, and im halfway through my 2330 level 3, after that i will take my nvq 3, and then i hope to get some sort of grading by the JIB, but as im working through angencies, can i get a grading as im not working for a JIB company?? any help much appreciated

 

[ezzzekiel]

He doesn't have his 2391 yet so would grade as Electrician you only become Approved Electrician once gaining 2391 and have worked as a graded electrician for at least two years

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not according to jib
4) Must have demonstrated competence and obtained a suitable qualification (the City & Guilds 2391 is a suitable qualification)

there are alternatives to the 2391

 

[IQ Electrical]

I imagine 2391-10, 2391-20 or the 2400 would carry similar weights.

 

[sbrown2]

does 2391-01 still stand or do I need to upgrade to 2391-10?

 

[IQ Electrical]

does 2391-01 still stand or do I need to upgrade to 2391-10?

There is no requirement to update as the testing procedures by and large are unchanged and the changes in parameters etc. should be addressed in a 2382 17th edition course/exam.

 

[sbrown2]

Thanks,

made a new post regarding this as Im looking to join NAPIT but they want a 2391 qualification less than 5 years old.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Is that regardless of whether you wish to do building control inspections?

 

[IQ Electrical]

I read that they'd done some deal with LABC's to do inspections on their behalf and one of the requirements was a 2391-10 passed within 5 years.

I can't see anything mentioned on the general NAPIT requirement page here:

http://www.napit.org.uk/downloads/CP_Electrical_Scheme.pdf

 

[sbrown2]

Thanks for the reply. I think I would stick with the general requirements for starters. I won't deny, I just don't want to go ack to studying or back into the classroom again if I can help it. I maybe would for courses taking me into new avenues. I am quite happy to self learn or request help on forums or technical helplines.

Regards

 

[tonys]

I read that they'd done some deal with LABC's to do inspections on their behalf and one of the requirements was a 2391-10 passed within 5 years.

About 8 years ago or so, a mate of mine joined napit for pennies to be put on a register to do these inspections, he never got a phone call. Did napit not original set up for the qualified test and inspector Electrician or something a long them lines?

Now they are just interested in taking money off the working class for their own staff to self promote and earn a good living "FREELOADERS"

 

[sparky1502]

i was taking to my tutor on friday and he said most companys in england have lost faith in the college system purely because of the pass at any cost mentality it all comes down to money when a student completes a course thats when the college recieves the money

 

[millwall ken]

i was taking to my tutor on friday and he said most companys in england have lost faith in the college system purely because of the pass at any cost mentality it all comes down to money when a student completes a course thats when the college recieves the money

Yep, I've heard the same... in fact I know someone who simply won't take anyone on unless they have a gold card - me as well!!! And he's known me for more than eight years.

 

[ian.settle1]

Thanks,

made a new post regarding this as Im looking to join NAPIT but they want a 2391 qualification less than 5 years old.

What a farce because once you have sat and passed the exam you can't take it again under C & G rules unless they change the qualification.

 

[tonys]

I didn't read the 5 year bit lol.

I like to repeat the one where their inspector came to see me in 2009 and he admitted to me that the JIB would only give him a LABOURER'S card. But he sat the napit inferior testing course and passed also told me the short EAL course I think he said was hard to PASS.

I passed the 2391 in 1999/2000, they need to get real and stop thinking they are something of a special organization, they just small fry in the world of Electrical Contractors, all the big boys are with the NICEIC.

All big organizations prefer an Approved NICEIC Company not a napit member.

 

[sbrown2]

I just liked the idea as I am more of a jack of all trades ie plumbing and ventilation