NAPIT Certification Scheme Napit Qualification requirements

[Richard3009]

They are asking for 2394 C&G within 12 months of signing up, good grief cant i just do the job i have been doing for 30 years without all this damn expense and courses.

 

[Plonker 3]

Well surely you knew the rules before you signed up?

 

[Richard3009]

I havent signed up for anything yet,

 

[Plonker 3]

My apologises then, what exactly is your point then?

All the scams expect you to have a I+T qualification, to prove your competence. Don't NAPIT do there own version still?

 

[NDG Elecs]

They are asking for 2394 C&G within 12 months of signing up, good grief cant i just do the job i have been doing for 30 years without all this damn expense and courses.

I think NAPIT do their own version of the corset. Maybe that will be a easier and watered down version....just a thought :smiley2:

 

[Plonker 3]

Until you no longer need to with NAPIT, then its useless. May as well bite the bullet and pay up for a proper recognised qualification.

 

[Richard3009]

Im not sure all the scams ask for it, its rapidly getting to the stage where by i cant afford to set up on my own

 

[Plonker 3]

I know NAPIT, ELECSA ans NIC do, not too sure about STROMA or BSI

 

[Richard3009]

I will have a word at the job centre to see if they will fund it

 

[GLENNSPARK]

My apologises then, what exactly is your point then?

All the scams expect you to have a I+T qualification, to prove your competence. Don't NAPIT do there own version still?

i`m sorry dillon but i have to stop you rite now.

How dare you peddle this rubbish.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I think NAPIT do their own version of the corset. Maybe that will be a easier and watered down version....just a thought :smiley2:

well then please keep such thoughts to yourself.

no need for the Napit 2391 here...




or anywhere else for that matter...

 

[NDG Elecs]

Yep I agree Glenn, should do the proper CG version. But the OP has implied they are competent in my view with their 30 yrs experience...my train of thought was that a competent spark wanted the path of least resistance to get signed up. Would not advocate the schemes courses for the lesser experienced.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

if he`s competent ..then he shouldn`t have an issue with the C&G version...should he...

 

[Richard3009]

I have an issue with £600

 

[NDG Elecs]

if he`s competent ..then he shouldn`t have an issue with the C&G version...should he...

True. But it does all start to get expensive. Although I dare say the crappy versions are not much cheaper.

 

[ipf]

I have an issue with £600

We've all been there Rich...and had to do it. After all, money makes the world go around, even if it does make most of us dizzy as firk and mad as a hatter.

 

[Richard3009]

Should hopefully get them free as im out of work right now.

 

[SparkyJoe]

Personally i think its a bloody joke they let electricians join the "national association of professional inspectors and testers" without the frigging qualifications to do it.

 

[dave274]

I thought it was 2395 Napit required within a year.

 

[Richard3009]

C&G change the bloody numbers every day, sigh, too many fat cats dipping in the working man's pocket

 

[Richard3009]

Description of Part P and its requirements.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

True. But it does all start to get expensive. Although I dare say the crappy versions are not much cheaper.

well..no....

in fact they will prove to be more expensive...much more expensive wont they...

if they arn`t worth a cak out of whatever organisation is touting them...

its scandalous...

C&G is recognised...

Napit isn`t

C&G deliver qualifications

Napit deliver accreditations


see where we`re going here boys....

 

[SPARTYKUS]

I have an issue with £600

I
did my 2391 (better version of 2394/2395, oooo missus!) at night school with 25 other proper sparks over 12/14 weeks at night school. £260 including both exams

 

[R G]

The biggest fear here is that the Napit version would not be recognised by anyone other than Napit , and I would think this would not be acceptable on any JIB grading , which in the near future will be required , I would defo recommend you go for a recognised C&G course , otherwise you would be wasting your money...

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Agree with Ray never saw the attraction

 

[guest119]

Should hopefully get them free as im out of work right now.

Possibly will only be the 2382-20, 17th, they will pay for, which you might already have?

Boydy

 

[Englishman]

I have an issue with £600

Mine cost me £750 a few years ago!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

The biggest fear here is that the Napit version would not be recognised by anyone other than Napit , and I would think this would not be acceptable on any JIB grading , which in the near future will be required , I would defo recommend you go for a recognised C&G course , otherwise you would be wasting your money...

exactly my point.

it ISN`T recognised by anyone other than Napit.

this is why it`s such a load of bollox...

 

[NickD]

They are asking for 2394 C&G within 12 months of signing up, good grief cant i just do the job i have been doing for 30 years without all this damn expense and courses.

You may want to ask them whether they will expect you to do 2395 as well. They won't take anything you already have in lieu?

 

[Richard3009]

Trying to find a course local is another headache, will ring Lincoln college tomorrow

 

[Plonker 3]

Here you go, my google search worked

http://www.lincolncollege.ac.uk/sites/default/files/files/guides/Part Time Guide 2013.pdf

page 24

 

[Richard3009]

Been there, then read on about visiting the website, try finding it on there having done YOUR google search

 

[Richard3009]

City & Guilds 2391-10/2392-10 Inspection, Testing & Certification of Electrical Installations | Lincoln College using the old number

 

[Plonker 3]

That course is no longer certified by C&G, its all about the 2394 and 2395 now.

 

[Richard3009]

I suspect the website is out of date

 

[Plonker 3]

Yes, its in this years prospectus, but I have found colleges aren't much use at updating their websites.

 

[NDG Elecs]

My CG 2391 was around 350 if I recall correctly. That was around 5 yrs back.

I 100% agree Glenn, it ain't worth nowt to anyone else so always better to do the CG version. If the OP was planning on staying with NAPIT/NIC/or whoever for say the next ten years then there in-house courses is a possible route for them. If it was the cheaper and easier option then a lot will prob go down that route. I'm not saying it's right or good but that's the way it is.

 

[Richard3009]

You could simply ditch the scams issue the householder with the test sheets,and then its up to him/her if they wish to notify, who checks and governs all this mumbo

 

[Plonker 3]

But in that instance, they would have to notify LABC BEFORE the work commences, so they can then send their inspectors round during the works.

 

[Richard3009]

They've thought this one through haven't they the robbing swines.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

C&G change the bloody numbers every day, sigh, too many fat cats dipping in the working man's pocket

the reason that `the national association of professional inspectors & testers` are making it a requirement to hold this ticket....is that they themselves offer their own crappy version..

just another racket to con money out of the unsuspecting.

you need to be COMPETENT...to carry out installation...and then to both inspect & test that installation...thats it

the C&G 2391...or whatever it is now was a way of DEMONSTRATING COMPETENCY.....

but napit are wrong to suggest its a requirement...it flies in the face of BS7671...and last time i looked i thought thats what we were working to...

breathtaking....:nonod:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

however i still stand behind my argument that in order to prove competency you should be attending college for 3 years minimum...

and i wont budge on that......ever!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

They've thought this one through haven't they the robbing swines.

if you must..

then elecsa will let you notify the works you carry out for your assessment AFTER its been assessed...

so what this means effectively is you carry out the work...have it assessed...then once your accepted you can then notify that work..

saves you on LABC costs...

 

[wozz]

I know NAPIT, ELECSA ans NIC do, not too sure about STROMA or BSI

since when has this been the case?

 

[NDG Elecs]

Three years minimum at college defo. Make that five years if the tutors or student is crap! On my 2330 there were 3 lads from ADT, they barely ever listened to a word that was taught...I would have made them do the full three years again. Thank duck they are only fitting alarms...and hopefully nowt else..

 

[Richard3009]

It looks to me as though with all of them they will take you onboard with the promise you will do your course within 12 months, laughable some will accept just 17th edition

 

[GLENNSPARK]

It looks to me as though with all of them they will take you onboard with the promise you will do your course within 12 months, laughable some will accept just 17th edition

yeah...it is laughable..




not funny though really....is it...

 

[Plonker 3]

Its damn right criminal that you only need to sit 1 online multi choice exam to be "competent" to work in peoples houses, and then have the nerve to charge for it.

 

[Richard3009]

To be honest Im totally confused by the system as a whole, Im simply going to slap in a consumer unit to the 17th commandment, sit there armed with all my paperwork and my giant chad valley tester, and get assessed, I need to feed my kids.

 

[NickD]

What paperwork have you got to show them? (particularly what qualifications?). I found the guidance NAPIT send you about what they expect to see to be pretty clear, stuff like evidence of calibration, evidence of Public Liability Insurance and if doing EICRs Professional Indemnity, complaints procedure and records, waste disposal policy - although I believe some of that may no longer required, just read what they've sent you. Best of luck.