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I agree, usually if it looks like a bodge it is a bodge. But I'm sure we have all seen the occasional picture perfect job with dangerous errors.
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That's exactly the complacent attitude that needs to be fought mate
It's nice to see that someone has been listening and now actually believes in what I've been saying for months.
Now, if you head on over to the campaign FB page and share your stories about how you have come to this point of view maybe more will get behind it and we could get some people power going on.
Unfortunately it is too late, the scams and the Electrical Trainee are now well established.
I've reread your post Dillb and what you say makes sense so it was unfair of me to have a bit of a pop but I'd rather see us get rid of the schemes as they are at present and start again as we mean to go on.
What is the page called or do you have a link to it please trev. Wouldn't mind a look
It's called UK Electricians Save Our Trade
Yeah I could maybe of worded it a bit better, but my point is all short course folk need to prove competence by paying a scam a fee to be assessed at regular intervals maybe even by the scam turning up on sites at short notice, picking jobs they have certified at random rather than being shown a job chosen by them. Then after a set period of time they can be told yes your work is satisfactory you no longer need us to keep a eye on you, away they go so the public know then they are more than capable of doing the job. So abit like a NVQ or equivalent but with stricter terms.
the main problem is not about how long you were trained but competence etc.
there is someone I know that did a full 4 year apprenticeship and is now qualified and I would rather have kev,wetpants ext trying there hands at electrics.
there that fooking rough.
if these fast tracked sparks etc are treated as electrician's directly under an onsite supervisor I dont see the issue if there not designing or doing anything too technical outside of there abilities.
The trouble is the scams don't assess people properly, that's how we've ended up with this nonsense in the first place.
If the scams had assessed people properly then we wouldn't be in this situation.
Whilst I will not be renewing my ELECSA registration in October as it doesn't bother me as I don't do jobs where building control are involved I wonder what those of us who do that kind of work can do?
It seems to be generally assumed that building control will charge £300+ per job if you are not registered, which is going to put the knackers on the plan to boycott the schemes.
I think this charge is wrong and will try to find out a bit more about what they are allowed to charge.
Is the Stroma scheme still available? And if it is is it any better than the others?
I'll be looking at registering with BSI instead, but can see many others being happy to shell out the extra cost.
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