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you stick to your guns gibo its never to latepeoples life choices change over the years. I ended up in retail management after my A levels. I should be entitled to change careers if I wish and not be excluded from something if I didn't choose it when I was 16, ill advised and unwise.
I do this job because I love electrics and love building circuits. But I find it upsetting that fellow electricians, 50% of you, would say that I am not a proper electrician. Are we all not trying to do the same job.
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Being competant is about knowing what you DONT know. Not knowing what you do.
My honest opinion, after a lot of years and seeing all kinds of electricians is that. A domestic installer who has never gained experiance in the commercial world, ie on 3 phase work, composite panel wiring, conduit, trunking and tray switchgear and fault finding ect, ect, Should be considered an electrician, but with limited experiance. House bashing is basic electrical work. I know I know rant rave rant, but the fact is its true.
Commercial and industrial electrics require higher levels of knowledge and skills. Part P in the domestic world has proven this,5 week courses and your qualified, really !!! I don't think so.
I hear what you're saying and in part agree with that but I've worked in industrial/commercial premises quite a bit but in the main I mostly work domestic/commercial.
I have seen quite a few 'Industrial' electricians/technicians that may know how to wire a ring main or a lighting circuit but you put them in a dwelling house thats 100 + (or any other house for that matter) year old and say 'go wire that'!! The mess is unimaginable because they have no idea how to run or apply any kind of grace to doing that job. It takes a certain skill to be able to do that and years of experience. I think it works both ways!!
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I have seen quite a few 'Industrial' electricians/technicians that may know how to wire a ring main or a lighting circuit but you put them in a dwelling house thats 100 + (or any other house for that matter) year old and say 'go wire that'!! The mess is unimaginable because they have no idea how to run or apply any kind of grace to doing that job. It takes a certain skill to be able to do that and years of experience. I think it works both ways!!
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The difference being, .....with a minimum of guidance an industrial/commercial electrician will be quite capable of wiring a domestic dwelling!! ...Whereas asking a Domestic electrician to undertake an industrial electricians position would not work, not without some very real intensive training... And it's nothing to do with being able to throw in conduit and trunking installations and the like, but everything to do with 3 Phase, motors, motor control, cable jointing, breaker set-ups, PLC programming, fault finding. ...Do i need to go on???
I don't feel a lack of experiance is any excuse for not taking care in someones home. I can see your point of view, and feel there is merit in what you say.
In fairness though years of experiance to wire a house ??
A bit of forward planning, knowing which way your boards and joists run, Not taking up to many boards cus a bit of MT 2 lid can work wonders, following routes from existing wiring, and pulling in cables through old capping with just a bit of chopping away where neccassary if possible can all aid in a good clean job. Tidying as you go and using a vacuam cleaner and dust sheets isn't rocket science either.
I have to say, I would rather have a commercial sparks give me a hand with a domestic rewire, than a domestic sparks, give me a hand with a commercial re wire. Having experienced both scenarios I would tend to hold true to what I have said.
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