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Got that nailed - bench top 90cm and I usually leave another 20cm to the outlet so still within the 45cm to 120cm, just.
....Not if i floor-sand 4" off the deck...just to reveal that lovely grain...
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Got that nailed - bench top 90cm and I usually leave another 20cm to the outlet so still within the 45cm to 120cm, just.
I don't understand what has gone wrong?
I put some impromptu pictures of the install up and no one has said anything bad or picky???
This is not normal behaviour and I feel quite left out.... almost abandoned! For heavens sake chaps I'm a Electrical Trainee (well, 6mw)... where's all the bashing!!!
However, I can understand it if you all feel that I'm perfect
(PS.. no response from Stroma yet to my email.
BG split load board eh? Somebody's been to Screwfix lol?
BG split load board eh? Somebody's been to Screwfix lol?
He has a point hhd, what were you thinking.
Midwest very sorry about the delay I was away and didn't have time before leaving to open up the laptop and gather all the references. Normally I access the forum on my mobile phone. I hope it will be worth the delay!Your first point, if you read item I) in below, and explain for me?
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Your second point, its item 0.4 thats a bit gobbledygook.
Most kitchen sockets are within the appropriate range for habitable rooms (inc kitchens) in visitable dwellings for people with reduced mobility.Just want to throw in a curved ball ... What about above counter sockets in kitchens .... They would struggle to comply with part m
Let me know if that is unclear - it's certainly clarified my understanding somewhat!
Midwest very sorry about the delay I was away and didn't have time before leaving to open up the laptop and gather all the references. Normally I access the forum on my mobile phone. I hope it will be worth the delay!
I've looked at the online version so I could get the context of the previous page, and I think it's changed from your version.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...BR_PDF_AD_M1_2015_with_2016_amendments_V3.pdf
Using the new document, it's quite specific in the guidance now:
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Looking at the actual regulation 5 in the legislation it does match your quote, but the context is essential here (see underline): The Building Regulations 2010 - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/2214/regulation/5
"there is a material change of use where there is a change in the purposes for which or the circumstances in which a building is used, so that after that change... ...the building, which contains at least one room for residential purposes, contains a greater or lesser number of such rooms than it did previously"
So it specifically only includes changes in what you're using the existing building, rather than changes resulting from building work.
Also the regulation itself excludes extensions specifically
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Regarding 0.4, again it's changed in the latest version to 0.11
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Looking at regulation 3 The Building Regulations 2010 - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/2214/regulation/3
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(2) An alteration is material for the purposes of these Regulations if the work, or any part of it, would at any stage result—
(a)in a building or controlled service or fitting not complying with a relevant requirement where previously it did; or
(b)in a building or controlled service or fitting which before the work commenced did not comply with a relevant requirement, being more unsatisfactory in relation to such a requirement.
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So a socket at 300mm doesn't comply, but it would be a material alteration if you moved it down to 200mm. Adding further sockets at an existing non compliant height, to me (non professional) would be a material alteration. However part M above specifically says that the building overall shouldn't be less compliant, so that clarifies matters somewhat.
Let me know if that is unclear - it's certainly clarified my understanding somewhat!
If Stroma think it’s wrong, ask them to clarify in writing what Is wrong and why
But go ahead with the assessment as I would wager a large bet it won’t be raised.
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