Best combi drill

[Hellmooth]

Looking to get a new combi drill around the £300 range, so many options it's hard to decide what's the best, have a dewalt at the moment but it's a cheaper version and useless, I like the look of the xr range though. Had a Bosch which was decent and have heard good things about Milwaukee.

Seen this dewalt with massive difference in price, anyone has it/got it? How can the price vary so much!?

DeWalt DCD795M2 18V XR Brushless Compact Li-ion Combi Drill with 2 x 4Ah Batteries: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

DeWalt DCD795M2 18v Cordless XR Brushless Compact Combi Drill with 2 Lithium Ion Batteries 4ah : Tooled-Up.com

I have used tooled up in the past and always thought they were reasonable......

 

[Leesparkykent]

I'm going back to Dewalt. Ive had enough of Makita as done 2 combi drills and an impactor in the last 10 months. To be fair they do suffer some abuse but still....

 

[LankyWill]

Go Hilti if you can persuade the MRS, personally my bosch 18v combi- top series is still plodding on from frequent abuse. I have had it 3 years and it will do a 5'' hole-saw in that disgusting chipboard they put on the floor of new builds. Its been dropped, rained on, thrown in anger and it still works. Torques scary and needs a mans grip.

 

[Midwest]

I've got a similar Dewalt XR, not sure if its the exact model. Very good drill, best still with 4ah batteries. Taken a beating and still functions well. Think whatever make you decide on, best to stick with the same, just so you can swap or get new batteries.

PS; http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/electrical-tools-products/107529-new-drill.html

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

:tongue3:
Just has NO WARRANTY with out a Serial Number and I aint got a clue if its NEW like the guy CLAIMED

but i did go for the DCD795N (N for naked)

 

[Hellmooth]

I've got a similar Dewalt XR, not sure if its the exact model. Very good drill, best still with 4ah batteries. Taken a beating and still functions well. Think whatever make you decide on, best to stick with the same, just so you can swap or get new batteries.

PS; http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/electrical-tools-products/107529-new-drill.html

Lol cheers, I had a quick look for recent threads and put in a search, obviously not my strong point!

 

[Midwest]

:tongue3:
Just has NO WARRANTY with out a Serial Number and I aint got a clue if its NEW like the guy CLAIMED

but i did go for the DCD795N (N for naked)

Why don't you ask Dewalt UK, if it's counterfeit it might interest them. Sounds like you bought it thinking it was genuine.

 

[PEG]

On a personal note,whenever deciding what kit to buy,never begin with a cost budget. Begin with a decision on what level of quality you require,average,good,best...

Then,do your research on the costs, in the sector you desire.

If you fix on cost before you buy,you may get a quality item,on a good offer,or,you may get an expensive lemon.

The list of top kit,in this case,will include Hilti. I have used,repaired and NDT these things for thirty years,and run models from new to a te72, i have loved for longer than my missus,of 26 years!

A myriad of speed changes,leds',side-handles,gizmos and extras,are fine,but cordless tools generally come down to two basics,motors and batteries.

I have never destroyed a motor,without good reason,including the one a crane driver squashed,with the rigger pad of a 300T Gottwald mobile...

The hilti batteries are very dependable. There are plenty with larger capacities,but consistency,is the key with batteries.

I have noted,that two Hilti batteries of the same age (they are serial numbered),will give identical characteristics,and last equal periods,of charge and EOL.

I have also lost count of the number of pals,who have pulled a face at hearing the cost of one of my recent additions,then proceed to outspend me,over the next 2-3 years,repairing/replacing the counterpart.


Note to self; Spend less on class A drugs,and more on tools and gadgets...:wink_smile: (...that's a lot funnier,if you know me...)

 

[PEG]

Why don't you ask Dewalt UK, if it's counterfeit it might interest them. Sounds like you bought it thinking it was genuine.

Just read this,and there are loads of snide DeWalt around. We have christened them "DeWont",on account of their reluctance to excel...

 

[Hellmooth]

On a personal note,whenever deciding what kit to buy,never begin with a cost budget. Begin with a decision on what level of quality you require,average,good,best...

Then,do your research on the costs, in the sector you desire.

If you fix on cost before you buy,you may get a quality item,on a good offer,or,you may get an expensive lemon.

The list of top kit,in this case,will include Hilti. I have used,repaired and NDT these things for thirty years,and run models from new to a te72, i have loved for longer than my missus,of 26 years!

A myriad of speed changes,leds',side-handles,gizmos and extras,are fine,but cordless tools generally come down to two basics,motors and batteries.

I have never destroyed a motor,without good reason,including the one a crane driver squashed,with the rigger pad of a 300T Gottwald mobile...

The hilti batteries are very dependable. There are plenty with larger capacities,but consistency,is the key with batteries.

I have noted,that two Hilti batteries of the same age (they are serial numbered),will give identical characteristics,and last equal periods,of charge and EOL.

I have also lost count of the number of pals,who have pulled a face at hearing the cost of one of my recent additions,then proceed to outspend me,over the next 2-3 years,repairing/replacing the counterpart.


Note to self; Spend less on class A drugs,and more on tools and gadgets...:wink_smile: (...that's a lot funnier,if you know me...)

I can relate to this post, hence why this year I'm using the saved money for a new drill instead

 

[Midwest]

Just read this,and there are loads of snide DeWalt around. We have christened them "DeWont",on account of their reluctance to excel...

They are a tiny winy bit more expensive those Hilti though!

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

Why don't you ask Dewalt UK, if it's counterfeit it might interest them. Sounds like you bought it thinking it was genuine.

Ive emailed them, and the seller. both asking were the serial number is, ie am i missing some thing, with a photo of the side of the drill with the space for a serial number.

emailed the seller again today

[h=1]New message to: fixit_power_tools-uk[/h]

[h=3]I ask about the Serial Number, because without it, it has NO WARRANTY. I'll Email Dewalt asking about it [/h]

I would guess, they will get in a HUFF say im trying to con them. i dont mind the drill with warranty just not paying the same price for one with it, so a discount. My odds on are that he will ask for the drill back at my cost and give me my money back and fob it off someone else, saying its NEW and With WARRANTY. And try and blackmail me in to not leaving Negitive Feedback.
I can cancell the payment at any point its on a Credit Card Via Paypal (both are more than willing to stop payments) but while i wait i am missing out on the other REP Dealer on Ebay selling it for £60 with the Warranty.

 

[Hellmooth]

And great post PEG. The budget was more of a guideline, normally I buy drills around the £150-£200 mark, as I work outside a lot and they can get messy so don't like going to expensive, but was looking to spend more for a better drill as I'll be keeping it for indoor work.

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

I got a Drill from a friend that was faulty (he said it been to Dewalt to get repair, but out of warranty now)
the motor inside was smashed (not sure if this friends son dropped it) but that fan inside was smashed and flapping about.
All in a sealed metal case, so new motor, keeping a eye out for one.
As the Naked Drill about £50, but they all asking for £45 for the motor!!

So I've brought £8 hope from CHINA that looks and sounds like it could be the same type.

Any way, The drill that was said to been fixed by DeWalt, was no way Fix, i think personally they lied by the looks of it inside.
Dosnt sound that good to me (and then i go and by a Dewalt for the Warranty)

A good Company for warranty is BELKIN (Hubs and power exentions) I had a problem with my Surge Protection on one, so called up, told me they were busy at the moment, to leave my address and they will send me out a New one!
I didnt even prove that id owned or brought one they just trusted me. think after that all cable exentions are belkin, with god like service like that.

 

[Midwest]

Ive emailed them, and the seller. both asking were the serial number is, ie am i missing some thing, with a photo of the side of the drill with the space for a serial number.

emailed the seller again today

The serial number is here on my DCD985, bottom left;

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

The serial number is here on my DCD985, bottom left;

View attachment 31086

I think thats the Data Code



Nope, just re-read it, and its a Date Code it was after and i used the other code as the Serial Number

I was under the Impression that the Serial Number printed under the drill was the Data Code!

 

[Sparkie30]

Bought a makita brushless over a year ago now and it does get abused, still as day 1.

 

[uksparks]

This is the one I have, all my kit is Bosch, 3 year warranty. Top notch drill, never let me down, metal chuck etc.

Bosch GSB18VE2LIRS 18v Robust Combi Drill in L-Boxx 2 x 4.0ah Li-ion

 

[Hellmooth]

This is the one I have, all my kit is Bosch, 3 year warranty. Top notch drill, never let me down, metal chuck etc.

Bosch GSB18VE2LIRS 18v Robust Combi Drill in L-Boxx 2 x 4.0ah Li-ion

Looks good to me mate, a lot of torque for such a small drill, I loved my previous Bosch but it was stolen, serious contender if not the one!

 

[Hellmooth]

Any recommendations for metal drill bits?

 

[uksparks]

Any recommendations for metal drill bits?

i use dewalt metal drills, Screwfix sell them.

 

[uksparks]

Looks good to me mate, a lot of torque for such a small drill, I loved my previous Bosch but it was stolen, serious contender if not the one!

Its a very good drill, I would highly recommend it, if you do but Bosch, don't forget to register the warranty straight away online so you get the three years, you need to do the drill, the charger and both batteries.

 

[Hellmooth]

Just bought it the Bosch there from ffx, cheers UK, love it!

 

[uksparks]

Just bought it the Bosch there from ffx, cheers UK, love it!

ah good, it will not let you down. It really is a good drill, the hammer is good too, clearly it's not an add but it's good.

 

[Hellmooth]

ah good, it will not let you down. It really is a good drill, the hammer is good too, clearly it's not an add but it's good.

Never really bother using hammer on my combis but will try this one out for light stuff! Got a really heavy duty Bosch hammer drill it's the nuts, bit heavy though for some tasks, looking to get the lightweight version as well!

Just had a look at the dewalts on screwfix website, they look quality! Is it the extreme you use?

 

[shanky887614]

I'm going back to Dewalt. Ive had enough of Makita as done 2 combi drills and an impactor in the last 10 months. To be fair they do suffer some abuse but still....

how have you killed the impactors?

ive using mine to do up m10 rawl bolts and make unistrut frames and its fine.

fair enough with the drills my 451 still works but has a dodgy gear selector
458 works fine after changing the bushes (bushes lasted less than a year of very heavy usage)

481 goes on fine and havent killed any 3ah (bl1830) batteries yet

 

[shanky887614]

ah good, it will not let you down. It really is a good drill, the hammer is good too, clearly it's not an add but it's good.

compared to all the other brands its slower, dosnt last as long and doesn't have as much torque (there are comparison vids on youtube)

 

[uksparks]

compared to all the other brands its slower, dosnt last as long and doesn't have as much torque (there are comparison vids on youtube)

Its only my opinion. You will always get people say bad and good about every product. If you want to spend 10x the price you may get something better. Reviews and comparisons are not all they are cracked up to be, ok yes on the face of it, it may be a natts whisker slower (maybe) who knows, but does it live longer? Maybe?

What you are saying its the worst out of the entire selection of combi drills.

Im only quoting what you have said. You say it doesn't last as long, I can only take this as a comment someone has made on a review as it maybe broke before another brand? That doesn't mean they all do.

Why do you really need 2000rpm that the DeWalt offers? 1800 rpm is fine.

The other thing to consider, do you want all your cordless tools all different brands? I don't, I like to keep the same throughout as I can swap batteries about.

I have a lot of Bosch kit, and not once has any of it packed up, show signs of giving in or anything and they get a lot of use. My impact driver for example, been used every day pretty well, gets dropped, frequently from top of step ladder, abused, and it still goes perfectly.

Look at this video about this Bosch drill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EEtGCL-2P8

 

[uksparks]

Something any of you may want to watch, a comparison between Bosch, Makita and DeWalt, five parts to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8o-FPOsYiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LODQmbGrOQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fg9UqDMXSQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mLWnS-BZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqCDBdUFWgc

 

[tex431]

Something any of you may want to watch, a comparison between Bosch, Makita and DeWalt, five parts to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8o-FPOsYiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LODQmbGrOQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fg9UqDMXSQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mLWnS-BZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqCDBdUFWgc

Try the Milwaukee videos as well, awesome bit of kit. I am waiting for a super hawg to come out now

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

i Fix laptops from time to time, (with all the bits ive changed on my laptop its NEW)
ACER whom own EMachines, Packard Bell and Gateway.
Make the Same Machine for each of its companies, same case just different logo.
Mine is a 5553 Acer, but works with G640, tm81, nv59 systems.
Just wonder if any of the Electrical Companies do the same.


DeWalt being the Upper classes version of Black and Decer
Milwaukee whom is owned by Techtronic Industries Company Limited who also own Ryobi

 

[shanky887614]

i Fix laptops from time to time, (with all the bits ive changed on my laptop its NEW)
ACER whom own EMachines, Packard Bell and Gateway.
Make the Same Machine for each of its companies, same case just different logo.
Mine is a 5553 Acer, but works with G640, tm81, nv59 systems.
Just wonder if any of the Electrical Companies do the same.


DeWalt being the Upper classes version of Black and Decer
Milwaukee whom is owned by Techtronic Industries Company Limited who also own Ryobi

laptops are slightly different as they are all made with off the shelf parts

 

[uksparks]

I say that the difference between the top brands is largely negligible and they are all a much of a muchness.

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

I wouldnt say Laptops are offer the shelf parts, desktops were there is spose to be a standard and are spose to be IBM Compatible bits brought from Tandy so they had some thing agest apple.


Motors, would be brought in bulk and to save on costs of redesigning they might use the same motor
Switches from model to model

looking at the specs of the DCD732 and DCD737 both 14.4v with a 310W Output
and then there is the DCD790 and DCD795 both 18v with a 360W Ouput
Also the Max Torque (hard/soft) Nm being 57/19 for the DCD732/737 and 60/23 for the DCD790/795

The specs for the DCD732 and the DCD790 seems to suggest same workings
and the specs for the DCD737 and the DCD795
apart from the Impact rating
DCD737 1st gear 0-9500 2nd gear 0-33'200
DCD795 1st gear 0-10'200 2nd gear 0-34'000

I guess the increase of Impact Rating is due to the new Motor
Guessing the Switch will be a standard to keep it cheap but the connection to the battery will be a different. That they would keep the Body work the same to keep it cheap.



As Ive been given a DCD776, with a dead motor, i will look for a motor from a DCD776 or 771
I am wondering if a DCD731 or DCD734 motor will fit tho a bit less power, but it would be having high voltage

 

[123]

I say that the difference between the top brands is largely negligible and they are all a much of a muchness.

Hilti & Festool I'd say is a little bit better, but Bosch/Makita/Milwaukee/Dewault/Metabo/Panasonic - yes all much of a muchness. I don't own anything Hilti or Festool fwiw, my kit is mainly Makita.

 

[Hellmooth]

It seems the Milwaukee may be better from YouTube reviews I've seen, but it comes in nearly £100 more, I like the Bosch personally ans for that money and spec I'm happy!

 

[Hellmooth]

Hilti is the best drill I've used, my mate had one, it had 3 speeds, the top speed was far too quick nearly snapped your hand off lol, loads of torque and a top piece of kit, expensive tho for my usage!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Is this of any interest to anyone??

http://www.recellyourbattery.com/

 

[Hellmooth]

I say that the difference between the top brands is largely negligible and they are all a much of a muchness.

Thanks for the heads up on the drill mate it's beyond what I thought it would be, didn't think it was as big as it is, it's perfect, loads of torque as well!

How did you sort out the warranty you mentioned? Haven't got anything with it about warranty.

 

[Andy78]

Is this of any interest to anyone??

Recell Your Battery | Refurbish and recell your batteries

Probably not. They only recell Ni-Cd and Ni-Mh tool batteries. I would imagine that not many people have those kicking about now.

We don't recell these Li-ion makes:
Dewalt, Hilti, Makita, Ryobi, AEG, Facom, Ingersoll Rand, Panasonic, Hitachi and Milwaukee. All these have controller circuits which disable the battery so re-cells are not possible.

 

[Risteard]

Hilti & Festool I'd say is a little bit better, but Bosch/Makita/Milwaukee/Dewault/Metabo/Panasonic - yes all much of a muchness. I don't own anything Hilti or Festool fwiw, my kit is mainly Makita.

Almost all of my stuff is Hilti, and it lasts forever. Definitely would recommend Hilti.

 

[LeeH]

I have the brushless xr gear, it's superb.