EICRs and LANDLORDS

[Hellmooth]

The eicr's, clearly doing away with the dodgy ones would be an ideal situation, although hardly possible.....

 

[Deleted member 26818]

EICRs are useful if they they are used as their intended purpose, which is to indicate that an installation is safe for continued use.
However I believe that many are produced simply as something to provide to Insurance companies ano Local Authorities.

I believe that while the 2391 was useful for practising Inspectors to prove their competence, we have been left with the situation where many people hold the qualification, yet have absolutely no experience in I&T whatsoever.

I also have concerns, that a supposedly respected body such as the NICEIC can produce such a thing as a Visual Report, let alone the fact that Local Authorities are willing to accept such (simply because it has NICEIC printed on it).

At present there is no requirement for Landlords to have EICRs conducted on their properties.
Landlords are responsible for the electrical safety of their properties, they cannot hide behind dodgey EICRs.

 

[shanky887614]

of course councils will only accept eicr's etc from a scam member.

can you imagine the amount of paperwork involved in checking someone is competent.

the reason they want someone in a scheme is any tom dick or harry can do an eicr.


a decent electrician will tell you when the installation starts to degrade and to keep an eye on it.

the installation can start to degrade and still be safe

 

[Deleted member 26818]

of course councils will only accept eicr's etc from a scam member.

can you imagine the amount of paperwork involved in checking someone is competent.

the reason they want someone in a scheme is any tom dick or harry can do an eicr.


a decent electrician will tell you when the installation starts to degrade and to keep an eye on it.

the installation can start to degrade and still be safe

Problem is, that Part P does not cover I&T, so being a scam member means nothing.
Yes the scams are now jumping upon the bandwagon and allowing their members to register for conducting I&T.
However if I was presented with a Visual Report rather than an EICR, I would refuse it.
The fact that LABCs are willing to accept what to my mind are worthless pieces of paper rather than a Report detailing inspections and tests conducted is rather worrying.

 

[shanky887614]

Problem is, that Part P does not cover I&T, so being a scam member means nothing.
Yes the scams are now jumping upon the bandwagon and allowing their members to register for conducting I&T.
However if I was presented with a Visual Report rather than an EICR, I would refuse it.
The fact that LABCs are willing to accept what to my mind are worthless pieces of paper rather than a Report detailing inspections and tests conducted is rather worrying.

not really because it means they have someone to fine and imprison when the muck hits the fan, its all about passing blame.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I would rather people were safe than there being someone to blame.

 

[shanky887614]

I would rather people were safe than there being someone to blame.

so would i but thats how this country runs now.

turning into the stupied american system "where there is blame there is a claim"

 

[Paul.M]

@ Merv



Your wrong, simple as that. Electrical safety for "People, Livestock & Property" is paramount to any Electrician worth their worth in gold.

Please bullet point and explain why an EICR is a money spinner for "TRUE" Electricians and their customers that let out properties to their customers?

Really looking forward to your reply. (but please dont talk nonsense like the last 5 pages of this thread. Just get to the point).

 

[UNG]

of course councils will only accept eicr's etc from a scam member.

can you imagine the amount of paperwork involved in checking someone is competent.

the reason they want someone in a scheme is any tom dick or harry can do an eicr.


a decent electrician will tell you when the installation starts to degrade and to keep an eye on it.

the installation can start to degrade and still be safe

But it does not stop any Tom, Dick or Harry working for the scheme member doing an EICR that's why an individual electrician licencing system would IMO be a good move and may be it would restore a bit of industry credibility

I would rather people were safe than there being someone to blame.

So would I but these days there always has to be a scapegoat to satisfy the blame culture that we have

@ Merv

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Your wrong, simple as that. Electrical safety for "People, Livestock & Property" is paramount to any Electrician worth their worth in gold.

Please bullet point and explain why an EICR is a money spinner for "TRUE" Electricians and their customers that let out properties to their customers?

Really looking forward to your reply. (but please dont talk nonsense like the last 5 pages of this thread. Just get to the point).

Well said, I think he's broken his drum though he hasn't posted for a good few hours

 

[Andy78]

Well said, I think he's broken his drum though he hasn't posted for a good few hours

Probably on the gas fitter's forum telling them what a bunch of robbing con artists they are and that they have no interest in customer safety.