Fixed installation back to a plug or fused spur

[Oli]

I have been asked to fit a set of electric gates and some garden lighting to a property. I'm working behind the guy doing the indoor electrics. He is talking about me wiring the gates back to a plug and the garden lighting to a fused spur. Question is do I issue a minor works certificate for both?
They are fixed installations, the lighting back to the fused spur seems like I would but do I need to do the same for the gate going back to a plug, is it even OK for a fixed installation to be wired back to a plug?
Many thanks for any help on this,
Oli

 

[Wilko]

Hi Oli and welcome to the forum .
I'd be happier if they were both going back to fcus and you provide mwc for each, as they sound independent bits of work.

 

[Spoon]

I wouldn't class anything wired back to a plug as 'fixed installation'.

 

[Oli]

I'd be happier if they were both going back to fcus and you provide mwc for each, as they sound independent bits of work

I agree they are separate and would require two mwc, also agree fused spur is preferable.
Are we saying taking a gate installation back to a plug is just a no no and fit the damn spur.
I was at a gate motor course a few months back and was surprised by the amount of non electricians fittings gates back to plugs.
Thanks for your replies

 

[Deuce]

I think the gates are considered a fixed installation irrespective of whether the final connection is via a plug.

The test is still relevant and covers all bases, even though in theory they could be plugged into a power supply that differs from the one you test.. But then, all you can do is test as it is presented to you on the day you test.

Bit odd to go back to a plug, but not really a problem so far as I can see. Having said that, out of interest, why a plug? What is the thinking/benefit?

 

[chris gray]

For gate supplies we just wire an isolator

 

[markc123]

Rough as.

Install an Isolator and have a bit of pride in your work.

You say others fit plugs? Don’t be a sheep then and do a proper job. Separate yourself as a man in a trade full of boys.

 

[Deuce]

Rough as.

Install an Isolator and have a bit of pride in your work.

You say others fit plugs? Don’t be a sheep then and do a proper job. Separate yourself as a man in a trade full of boys.

It sounds like his gaffer told him to fit the plug...

I jut want to know why Why would anyone choose a plug for something as undeniably 'fixed' as a set of gates??

 

[Oli]

I always fit an Isolator near the gate position.
Got to speak to the guy doing the indoor stuff today for the first time, turns out he was told to by someone else who quoted for the gate before me. He seems to think that some gate suppliers think you don't need to be qualified if you fit it back to a plug, can that be right?
He is fitting a fused spur for me.

 

[SparkyChick]

Even if it's plugged in, fixed wiring needs to comply with the regs.