no earth

[Knobhead]

Has the OP at any point mentioned loop in loop out?

 

[Geordie Spark]

You should not be talking to the sales line. Press whichever button gets you through to the power cut dept, and from there you should be able to talk to someone regarding getting an engineer out within 48 hrs to sort the earthing out. I find it strange that there is no sign of an earth at all, past or present...

It's quite common here in Geordieland.

A lot of my work was in Tyneside flats which were built about 1910 and were originally lit by gas with electricity being installed later (1920 onwards I think)

Houses built in the 1920s were supplied with electricity as they were built. Neither these houses nor the flats had any form of earth supplied other than via the water incomer.

 

[sima24]

Thanks to all, iv installed .any rods and more than comfortable with that, as someome else i found it strange their was no form of earthing at all, thats whats threw me as iv never came across a property without a system already in weather it be tncs tns or tt

 

[njh]

Just to throw another spanner in the works, you mention it's a very old property, are the suppliers cable lead sheathed (pilc) they used to sweat an earth on to the lead sheath as an earth. These tend to break off over time with years of abuse. If so get on to supply company for upgrade, think its a free service, although I may be wrong.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Just to throw another spanner in the works, you mention it's a very old property, are the suppliers cable lead sheathed (pilc) they used to sweat an earth on to the lead sheath as an earth. These tend to break off over time with years of abuse. If so get on to supply company for upgrade, think its a free service, although I may be wrong.

and trying to get them to come out if the sheath earth has come off?...they will just say `it aint distributer earth`....and as such will just tell you to rod it....
any excuse not to come out...

 

[Happyneiller]

Just stick a rod in - what's the issue ?

 

[chilliwilly]

Has the OP at any point mentioned loop in loop out?

No I don't think they have now you come to mention it, one of them prefers cheese and and onion, and the other prefers a ploughmans lunch with a gill.

Hope this helps?

 

[Engineer54]

I don't quite understand why people are saying that the existing earthing system is a TT system?? If it doesn't have an earth electrode, then it can't be a TT system. It's just an installation that doesn't have any earthing provided!!

 

[chilliwilly]

or alternatively you could do it right...

get 3X 5/8" rods 2 connectors and a striking top...

dig a hole where you intend to site the rod (about a meter away from the building so as not to intercept any foundation/building rubble)...you dig the hole where you intend to site the rod to ensure there are no buried services there....
once you have verified its safe to drive rods down...start doing so...once the first rod is in connect the second rod onto the first and carry on driving it in...
once the second rod is in get a test on it....
you may not need the third rod...if not then the wholesalers should accept it back as long as it hasn`t been used/damaged....

If its a back to back around Armley, doing it "right" might not be an option and certainly not profitable for a rewire quote.

 

[chilliwilly]

I don't quite understand why people are saying that the existing earthing system is a TT system?? If it doesn't have an earth electrode, then it can't be a TT system. It's just an installation that doesn't have any earthing provided!!

It has to be treat like one to illiminate the code 2 departure to allow an addition or alteration.