no earth

[Engineer54]

It has to be treat like one to illiminate the code 2 departure to allow an addition or alteration.

Pardon?? If there isn't a made electrode connected to the installation, then it's not a TT system, it's that simple!!

The OP's best bet, is to contact the area's DNO and ask if a PME connection is available on the distribution cable supplying this house.

 

[chilliwilly]

Pardon?? If there isn't a made electrode connected to the installation, then it's not a TT system, it's that simple!!

The OP's best bet, is to contact the area's DNO and ask if a PME connection is available on the distribution cable supplying this house.

Can you tell me what defines a TT system please? And what is wrong with inserting one or more spikes in the ground to create or improve the earthing arrangement, for pre testing or design for a permanent earthing atrangement?

 

[thekernal]

Hi, been to look at a rewire today and no earth connection at all. Tried to contact supply company to enquire weather the property is connected to a pme system but no joy after holding most the afternoon. I presume supply company doesnt have to supply an earth but just wondering if they would upgrade to pme or not? Or possibly it is a pme system but earth has been disconnected at some point (no sign of pme label tho) any views appreciated. Thanks.

Hi. I had the same problem. Went to upgrade the cu at my new house currently and the was no earth. No connected or visible earth rod and no pme.
I called southern electric on the distribution number and they forwarded me to the electrical emergency department.

They booked a pme enquiry but said there would be a charge after they establist it could be done. When the guys from the board came round they did a Ze, got 0.18 ohms. Threw a 16mm in to their neutral and gave me an MET and a length of 16mm to connect the new cu. No charge. Didnt even want a cuppa.

Couldn't have asked for a better result.

 

[Engineer54]

Can you tell me what defines a TT system please? And what is wrong with inserting one or more spikes in the ground to create or improve the earthing arrangement, for pre testing or design for a permanent earthing atrangement?

Nothing wrong in inserting one or more rods/spikes in the ground to create or improve any earthing arrangement, be it TN-S or TNC-S or even to improve an existing TT system etc!! In electrical earthing terms, a TT system needs an earth electrode. As the OP has stated that no earthing is present at this installation, and no mention of bonding connections to service pipes (not that i would call that a TT system either, which is also not permissible )etc, then it ain't a TT system is it??

 

[Guitarist]

Pardon?? If there isn't a made electrode connected to the installation, then it's not a TT system, it's that simple!!

The OP's best bet, is to contact the area's DNO and ask if a PME connection is available on the distribution cable supplying this house.

Totally agree, and can't see the issue here. When I find installations with bad earth connections, UKPN treat it as an emergency, and if they can't get out straight away, they'll certainly be out within 48 hours.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

If its a back to back around Armley, doing it "right" might not be an option and certainly not profitable for a rewire quote.

well for a start...you`l find that a lot of `em in back to back areas like armley, harehills etc are TN-S....theres often evidence though of the old earth rod in the cellars...

be aware as well that quite a few of `em (not all) but quite a few are high....

 

[Geordie Spark]

well for a start...you`l find that a lot of `em in back to back areas like armley, harehills etc are TN-S....theres often evidence though of the old earth rod in the cellars...

be aware as well that quite a few of `em (not all) but quite a few are high....

Is that because of what is growing in the cellars??

 

[Silly Sausage]

Is that because of what is growing in the cellars??

Can't be spotted by the helicopters!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Can't be spotted by the helicopters!

Exactly !!!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Can't be spotted by the helicopters!

well Archy...
i have it on good information the current trend for growers is to erect a kind of `tent` in the loft...this shields any horticultural activities from `prying eyes`..

i also have it on good information that the current trend for growers is erm...well, nicking current....