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Is it wrong that the sight of this excites me in ways that it shouldn't? Pure magic that! :sorcerer:

Nothing wrong with it at all mate, lots of people look at paintings but to us this is our idea of art. Wish I could do tray work like that.
 
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View attachment 9368 Pesky ants had decided to move into some post lights and caused some RCD tripping, lights were 600 tall and the ants made there nests right up level with the inside of the lens, absolutey killed the lights, replaced with lots of silicon in the base.
 
IMG_0889.jpgIMG_0895.jpgWell my first time in a Skunk Farm today.... !! honest.. a rented house that they wrecked and carried out some creative installation work ... no idea where they dumped the meter ;-)
 
The marks on the switches are whatever debris was on their hands, there had been plenty of plants, peat, chemicals, and some big leaves on the floor.. its was like a scene from Lock Stock... ;-) and believe me the room to room installation was on a par with that board and the contactor set up lol..
 
are plastic tie wraps meant to be used on cable trays now? ive heard at collage that they are not meant to be used anymore,simply for fire fighters safety in the event of a fire.Cables strewn everywhere cos the tie wraps have melted cant be good
 
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are plastic tie wraps meant to be used on cable trays now? ive heard at collage that they are not meant to be used anymore,simply for fire fighters safety in the event of a fire.Cables strewn everywhere cos the tie wraps have melted cant be good


the fisrt i heard about this was on a job a few years ago, where I was wiring a plant room for a large water feature. i was pulled up on snagging for this. I was told that in the event of a fire, they didnt want the cables falling from the tray. So i came to an agreement with the engineer that i would replace every third tie with a stainless one. I asked what would happen if the plastic wall plugs melted, but he didnt reply, he changed the subject.
i have been on jobs where ive asked to install the tray facing down, for access/ease of installation reasons, but have been refused and added another days work finding a new route, for this reason.
 
on my AM2 i used ties but they wanted the pyrofil emergency circuit cable clipped and bolted to the tray, dont know if this could apply in the real world, surely in a fire wires are going to melt regardless of how they and fixed? as long as the emergency circuits are held in place untill building is evacuated.
 
on my AM2 i used ties but they wanted the pyrofil emergency circuit cable clipped and bolted to the tray, dont know if this could apply in the real world, surely in a fire wires are going to melt regardless of how they and fixed? as long as the emergency circuits are held in place untill building is evacuated.


cables usch as pyro (Mineral insualted copper clad to ba accurate), or FP200, must be fixed in a way that they remain intact during a fire. I doubt that you would bolt to tray on a normal job, stainless ties would be more efficient.
 
cables usch as pyro (Mineral insualted copper clad to ba accurate), or FP200, must be fixed in a way that they remain intact during a fire. I doubt that you would bolt to tray on a normal job, stainless ties would be more efficient.

correct 1 in 3-4 ties should be metal so that if there is a fire the cable doesn't hang and potentially go around someone neck etc
 

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