Tell us about your faults!

[Tiny Spark]

And what about when they vibrate loose, corrode, or cross thread?
I dont care what anyone says fronts should be earthed the same as anything else.

 

[Kate]

Builders way of wiring safely after removing old consumer which by the way was functional.

Had that on a recent job. I had installed a bank of two twin sockets temporarily while place was gutted...2.5mm radial on a 16A with a 30mA RCD.

Mains incomer got moved on a friday afternoon...so my temp dis/board no longer worked...builder worked weekend so connected my temporary radial straight into mains.

I went mental when I saw it monday morning and got laughed at for it.

 

[sajeel]

Had that on a recent job. I had installed a bank of two twin sockets temporarily while place was gutted...2.5mm radial on a 16A with a 30mA RCD.

Mains incomer got moved on a friday afternoon...so my temp dis/board no longer worked...builder worked weekend so connected my temporary radial straight into mains.

I went mental when I saw it monday morning and got laughed at for it.

Hi Kate

Builders cannot be sparks the way I see it

 

[Engineer54]

I took advice on this from the NICEIC tech help line. The practice they would like to see would be not to rely on just the screws. I agree with you engineer54 and NICEIC best practice, hence why I fixed the "fault". Even where the protective conductor is steel conduit to steel end box I would still use a fly lead. But I can see the point that when the front plate is screwed down as it should, then adequate connectivity will/could be present. When the faceplate screws are loose the circuit will always (in theory) be isolated anyway. Of course I am well aware of situations where decorators choose to loosen the face plates to paint the walls and electricians may remove a face plate while testing/on near live parts on a double pole switch or a fused spur.

Since when does the NICEIC decide what is or isn't acceptable?? If they actually accept this method of connecting socket outlet's, FCU's and other power based wall accessories, yet another reason NOT to rely on these outfits for guidance!! Useing the face plate fixing screws as the sole means of earthing connected equipment and appliances, is not and should not, ever be acceptable!!

 

[Kate]

Hi Kate

Builders cannot be sparks the way I see it

Definitely not. They are of the mentality 'well the kettle works when I plug it in so it must be right'

Dont get me started on plumbers though!!!!! My (easiest way to describe) "father-in-law" is a plumber. I visit his house regular. They are doing up the house. He knows I would do free elecs for him yet decides to do it himself...its fooking awful!!!!

Cant even get the bathrooms right...how does he think he can do elecs??? Lights tapped off rings, no sleeving at all, JB's everywhere. Rewired kitchen himself few years ago and just tapped new ring legs to nearest cable he found by cutting and JBing..ended up a balloon configuration....i never did find the other leg it was live under floor. Had to rewire it all myself.

Sorry I got started hahahaha.

In his defence..the problems with bathrooms are tile and stud wall related. Tiling was awful and water got behind them.

 

[Amandaroepke]

I got called to a house to rectify a cooker circuit that had tripped and stopped working. Traced the fault all the way back to inside to cooker only to find an electrocuted mouse between live and earth.........nice!

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Since when does the NICEIC decide what is or isn't acceptable?? If they actually accept this method of connecting socket outlet's, FCU's and other power based wall accessories, yet another reason NOT to rely on these outfits for guidance!! Useing the face plate fixing screws as the sole means of earthing connected equipment and appliances, is not and should not, ever be acceptable!!

spot on!

 

[Amandaroepke]

Looks like a quote for a db and split up wiring circuits to balance load

 

[sajeel]

Definitely not. They are of the mentality 'well the kettle works when I plug it in so it must be right'

Dont get me started on plumbers though!!!!! My (easiest way to describe) "father-in-law" is a plumber. I visit his house regular. They are doing up the house. He knows I would do free elecs for him yet decides to do it himself...its fooking awful!!!!

Cant even get the bathrooms right...how does he think he can do elecs??? Lights tapped off rings, no sleeving at all, JB's everywhere. Rewired kitchen himself few years ago and just tapped new ring legs to nearest cable he found by cutting and JBing..ended up a balloon configuration....i never did find the other leg it was live under floor. Had to rewire it all myself.

Sorry I got started hahahaha.

In his defence..the problems with bathrooms are tile and stud wall related. Tiling was awful and water got behind them.

I hear you Kate, builders and plumbers. Many times I have seen electrics done the way you mentioned. They just tap a feed it works so job done.

 

[Kate]

Or the whole...'havent got 2.5mm but ive got 1.0mm...that will do' or vice versa

 

[daiplayer]

went to a power loss fault today . They hadnt put credit in the meter......

 

[onions1066]

This is how not to raise a con unit up. Nothing more I

can really say I think the picture speaks for itself.

 

[sajeel]

Done by a so called electrician check size of tails

 

[dan86]

was at a farm this afternoon fixing the guys land rover.
now we all know that farms aren't renowned for their great electrics, but this is pretty bad.
tap was also leaking and spraying water all ways.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Eh? Was it snowing extremely heavily?

 

[dan86]

eh? its cobwebs you're seeing

 

[sajeel]

That's a disaster waiting to happen

 

[Silly Sausage]

eh? its cobwebs you're seeing

There weren't any pictures there when I first saw your posting!
The only good thing there is that stone wall.

 

[dan86]

That's a disaster waiting to happen

nah its not. its perfectly safe. the guy said its been like that for yearsss and nothings ever happened :/

 

[sajeel]

They all say that it works no problem