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Got nicked a few weeks ago for speeding, got to attend a course tomorrow, hope I pass?
Doubt itCan you fail?
I would suggest that insufficient signage on the roads is partly to blame. My last ticket was for 50 in a 40 - a wide rural road with no signs visible!
Can you fail?
OK Pete you are a respected Sparks. But 30mph is set for a reason, its a maximum, it's set for a reason. There are plenty of "cash cams" set up to collect extra revenue, but if its in a 30mph zone then just admit its irresponsible and learn the lesson matey.Mine was 35 in a 30mph limit
Do they charge you for the course?
OK Pete you are a respected Sparks. But 30mph is set for a reason, its a maximum, it's set for a reason. There are plenty of "cash cams" set up to collect extra revenue, but if its in a 30mph zone then just admit its irresponsible and learn the lesson matey.
I have had a couple long time ago, clocked at 36 mph in a 30 mph, not that I am proud of it, never got the option of a driver speed awareness course, pay your money and learn from it Pete.
IN A LAND ROVER? THEY GOTTO BE JOKING. :alucard:
Mine was 35 in a 30mph limit
Yeah we got something over here called health and safety. All you guys need to go and have a chat with a few traffic cops who have to deal with the consequences of idiots speeding every day. The law is the law, you either stick to it or pay the consequences. Just man up, pay up and shut up, simple.Are you serious???? 5mph over the speed limit and you've got to do a course at a cost of 90 quid?
I got caught earlier this year doing 180 in an 80 zone. No points but the ticket cost was about 100 quid. I paid it early enough to qualify for the 50% discount so it wasn't too bad.
Yeah we got something over here called health and safety. All you guys need to go and have a chat with a few traffic cops who have to deal with the consequences of idiots speeding every day. The law is the law, you either stick to it or pay the consequences. Just man up, pay up and shut up, simple.
Yeah whatever Dave, its all part of the same thing. That extra 6mph can make the difference between some innocent person living or dying, especially in a 30mph zone. Like you say, just own up and pay up, and, you apart in this, stop making out you have been hard done to.Health and safety has nothing to do with it. This is quite simply the law, a clearly defined line dividing what is legal from what is not.
By driving faster than the speed limit I broke the law, therefore I will suffer due punishment as prescribed by the law.
Health and safety is an entirely different piece of legislation
Are you serious???? 5mph over the speed limit and you've got to do a course at a cost of 90 quid?
I got caught earlier this year doing 180 in an 80 zone. No points but the ticket cost was about 100 quid. I paid it early enough to qualify for the 50% discount so it wasn't too bad.
It never ceases to amaze me how much the UK has changed. When I was at Uni in the UK I went to a vodka promotion night at the SU bar. One thing led to another and I ended up vomiting inside my motorcycle helmet and falling off on the way back home. The policemen that helped me cleaned me down, gave me a lift home in the back of their van, put me to bed and one of them even rode my bike back for me. The next day I went to the station, thanked them and gave them a gift-wrapped bottle for their trouble. This was in the days when driving licenses had hard covers and no photos.Yes, he is serious. In this country the law is very clear, the speed limit is defined clearly and in breaking that limit one breaks the law. There is of course a tolerance to allow for the inaccuracy of vehicle speedometers (I believe it is set at 10% currently)
The law is made up by people though, and people often get things wrong.Health and safety has nothing to do with it. This is quite simply the law, a clearly defined line dividing what is legal from what is not.
By driving faster than the speed limit I broke the law, therefore I will suffer due punishment as prescribed by the law.
Health and safety is an entirely different piece of legislation
A picnic spot, like, one of those places where there might be kids and so on. 180 was it? in an 80 zone?? Just kin think about it for christs sake.Okay, I consider myself chastised.:6: I did pay up and promptly as well.
The road I was on was 120 limit but it dropped to 80 for a few hundred meters where there was an exit into a picnic spot. I let off the accelerator and managed to slow down maybe 20kph but it obviously wasn't enough. Last time I went past there was no camera or maybe someone had put a few 9mm rounds through it so I was quite surprised when I saw the flash. :28:
LOL, you counldn't make it up! The law is wrong eh, couldn't possibly be you that was wrong then??The law is made up by people though, and people often get things wrong.
For example I had to do my speed awareness course because I got caught doing 60 on a dual carriageway. Yes the national speed limit is 70 on a dual carriageway, yes half a mile along the same road the speed limit was 70, yes 2 years previously the speed limit where I was caught was 70, but it had been reduced to 50.
OK I was caught breaking the rules, but if it's 'right' for that bit of road to have a 50mph speed limit then the previous limit was wrong, ie the law was wrong.
The law is made up by people though, and people often get things wrong.
For example I had to do my speed awareness course because I got caught doing 60 on a dual carriageway. Yes the national speed limit is 70 on a dual carriageway, yes half a mile along the same road the speed limit was 70, yes 2 years previously the speed limit where I was caught was 70, but it had been reduced to 50.
OK I was caught breaking the rules, but if it's 'right' for that bit of road to have a 50mph speed limit then the previous limit was wrong, ie the law was wrong.
OK Pete you are a respected Sparks. But 30mph is set for a reason, its a maximum, it's set for a reason. There are plenty of "cash cams" set up to collect extra revenue, but if its in a 30mph zone then just admit its irresponsible and learn the lesson matey.
I try not to it generally hurts. When you use 2 wheels as well, you tend to keep it down in 30 mph zones, there are plenty of folks about who think its OK to do all sorts of stupid things!Crikey, you mind you don't fall off that high horse you are sitting on Matey.
Got nicked a few weeks ago for speeding
Don't get caught again on your way too the course!
I try not to it generally hurts. When you use 2 wheels as well, you tend to keep it down in 30 mph zones, there are plenty of folks about who think its OK to do all sorts of stupid things!
In this crazy world of overpaid poncy footballers and crackpot politicians, I would like to say that if anyone wants to watch some real men risking everything in pursuit of their dreams, have a watch of these lads over the next two weeks. I guarantee you will find yourself gripping the side of your armchair as they race with the devil at speeds that defy belief. Free-view channel 24.
The speed limit is different for vans, but what is the changeover point? Would a car derived van be classed as a van as far as speed limits go, or is it a car?
Would a car derived van be classed as a van as far as speed limits go, or is it a car?
Don't worry Murdoch it's a 30, 50, 70 but not sure what the last bit is
I don't really understand your reasoning here. All of the riders, spectators, marshals and medics know exactly what the score is and attend willingly. It might be on a public road, but to all extents and purposes it becomes a racetrack during the practice and races. It is entirely different from the public roads. You seem to be insinuating that theses guys are not brave, name me another sport where those competing restart their sport just minutes after one of them has had a tragic and often fatal accident in pursuit of the ultimate goal?Unfortunately, in Northern Ireland at least, there have been several spectator deaths, (that's not even to mention Rider deaths) as a result of these 'real mean risking everything in pursuit of their dreams'.
I'm not having a go sparksburnout, I just found your comments interesting having read the other thread - I guess there are plenty of folks about who think its OK to do all sorts of stupid things.
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