Adding an extra light fitting and switch

[marc_v33]

its alright lads the holidaysare closing to an end and all the diyers wil have something else ton worry about!!! well atleast until easter anyways

 

[markc123]

...but that means are holidays are also close to an end and the fact we have to socialise with builders and plumbers again and its making me feel sick....pass me the vodka

 

[Deleted member 9648]

We're seeing more and more threads like this aren't we, they're all similar - some new member with massive balls freely admitting they're gonna do the job themselves to an electricians forum....there either all wind-up merchants, or incredibly stupid.

Aye minor works for addition to a circuit, but we all know 99& of sparks would do this for £50quid cash in hand no questions asked lol

Cant believe this post....it's adding an additional light FFS,and he's not asking how to do it,just if it needs notifying.....only one person on here who thinks he's large in the balls department and it's not the OP.

 

[markc123]

Wirepuller.............have you read the rest of his comments?

You honestly think he's not going to be doing it himself? yeah ok then

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

Whhoooooo??????

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Wirepuller.............have you read the rest of his comments?

You honestly think he's not going to be doing it himself? yeah ok then

I KNOW he's doing it himself!....thats the point,WHY SHOULDNT HE DO IT HIMSELF....AND WHY DOES HE REQUIRE OVERSIZED BALLS TO WIRE ONE LIGHT?

 

[markc123]

I KNOW he's doing himself!....thats the point,WHY SHOULDNT HE DO IT HIMSELF....!

The pont is...he's not qualified?

I know sweet FA about Gas, so when we've had our new gas fire's installed before christmas i got the gas-man, didn't do it myself. So why should it be different for electrics?

I've just read above that you're not the type of electrician that thinks people shouldn't do their own electrics if they feel they're competent...you honestly can't be for real. Why not just pay £50 get a sparks to do the job properly and safely.

 

[paul wannell]

what i wanna know is how big is this toilet that it needs an extra switch? is it an extra switch needs mwc or replacing fitting and switch doesnt need cert

 

[markc123]

paul technically it still needs a minor works if you're even changing the fitting or switch but no body bothers

 

[PEG]

Just a hedgehog in the sleeping bag...but the gas fitter at the refurb work in Irlam was qualified,certified and authorised yet we heard THAT boom from 4 miles down the road.Notice the word missing from the above list? Competant. Anyway,i'm a time served qualified gynocologist yet you never hear me whinge when others roll their sleeves up and have a go...

 

[markc123]

Can see this thread is starting to turn abit heated, PEG...i wasn't actually whiniging i was just stating the point at first that theres so many chancers on here now

 

[Deleted member 9648]

The pont is...he's not qualified?

I know sweet FA about Gas, so when we've had our new gas fire's installed before christmas i got the gas-man, didn't do it myself. So why should it be different for electrics?

I've just read above that you're not the type of electrician that thinks people shouldn't do their own electrics if they feel they're competent...you honestly can't be for real. Why not just pay £50 get a sparks to do the job properly and safely.

Quite frankly I've never heard such rubbish. What is so hard about adding a single light to an existing point?...I'll wager at some point in your history you have changed the brakes on your car...or undertaken some similar skilled task normally carried out by another trade,and yet you wont accept that anyone not in the trade can carry out a simple electrical job if they are competant.
Before you ask I do know the risks...I have attended the immediate aftermath of a DIY electrics death,and given evidence at the subsequent inquest. But I will defend for ever the right for anyone to carry out electrical work WITHIN THE LAW in their own homes if they so wish,just as I will defend for ever the right for me and you to replace the brakes on our cars to save a few quid.....'Bout time you dropped the ego trip.

 

[markc123]

Quite frankly I've never heard such rubbish. What is so hard about adding a single light to an existing point?...I'll wager at some point in your history you have changed the brakes on your car...or undertaken some similar skilled task normally carried out by another trade,and yet you wont accept that anyone not in the trade can carry out a simple electrical job if they are competant.
Before you ask I do know the risks...I have attended the immediate aftermath of a DIY electrics death,and given evidence at the subsequent inquest. But I will defend for ever the right for anyone to carry out electrical work WITHIN THE LAW in their own homes if they so wish,just as I will defend for ever the right for me and you to replace the brakes on our cars to save a few quid.....'Bout time you dropped the ego trip.

Sigh, you're gonna run yourself outta work wirepuller if you keep advising people to do their own electrics...lights can be wired different ways, then the customer rings you up because its not switching on or off...just get the job done properly in the first place!

If you're changing a plug, or even a faceplate for a light switch / socket if you're completley sure that its dead then fine diy, if it involves wiring don't. Sorry to hear that you've seen a diy'er death.

And to be fair, if my vans got a problem i just send it to the garage - yes we're in an economic downturn but i still don't find it acceptable to cut corners. Building a shelf isn't like medalling with gas or electrics. I honestly can't see your reasoning to think that its actually acceptable wirepuller, i just cant. It all goes on and theres nothing we can do to stop it granted, but to promote it IMO i think is wrong.

 

[paul wannell]

mark gonna bow to your greater knowledge but if not altering or adding to an excisting circuit why would it need mwc?

 

[markc123]

mark gonna bow to your greater knowledge but if not altering or adding to an excisting circuit why would it need mwc?

Read GN3 section on minor works.

Nobody does it, but technically its needed.

 

[Plonker 3]

Don't forget that the new cable that is installed might need to be RCD protected.

 

[brock flanders]

Thanks most of you guys for the answering my original question, which is all i asked for. But as always on forums you get the wanna be mouthy know it all's like Wade88 and Mark123 who know how to run a wire from A to B.
Yes im doing a bit of DIY is that a issue.
I have 17 years experience as an engineer and yes that’s a proper engineer i.e. chartered status. IMechE. I spent 4 years as an apprentice in the automotive industry and 3 years working for the Military. I now work as a research, design engineer for ESA compiling sophisticated satellite systems. So don’t tell me it’s something is cant do. Unlike Wade88 and Mark123 i unfortunately didn’t do the 3 week multiple choice questionnaire and wiring a plug test and checking with a multi-meter test. No i spent 11 years part time at college and university to get my qualifications. You think you know about all things electrical. Tell me what cross torque voltage creepage is. I don’t think so.

So like i said, all im doing is the most simplest bit of work ive ever carried out. Adding 4 wires, a switch and a light fitting. Sorry to Mark123 and Wade88 if this is classed as a big job to you. But i know you have to justify why you charge what you do and take more than a week to do it.


Nuff said

Even thou you still will insist of slagging people off who didnt do the 3 week multiple choice course to make them certified

 

[shagbite]

you sound very knowledgable, but the fact that you're on here asking questions, suggests you don't know what you're doing.

 

[simpson93]

you sound very knowledgable, but the fact that you're on here asking questions, suggests you don't know what you're doing.

he was just asking a legal question about regulations, doesnt mean he cant wire a light.

 

[brock flanders]

Just wanted to ask if i needed to get the work tested and certified. As an easy option, rather than paging through lots of regulatory documnets to get the right answer. carrying out the work is a doddle.
thought somebody on here might be of some use, which some have been others are just being the usual muppets that they are.