AFDD EICR - unsatisfactory report landlord

[Rockingit]

Yeay!! Another Forum win!!

 

[buzzlightyear]

Yeay!! Another Forum win

drink all rounds then rocket .

 

[nicebutdim]

Attached is the quote the company sent me for the works which seems very high. I asked for the cheapest way possible to bring it to regulations

Quite unprofessional to quote for the fitting of Wylex protective devices in a Hager board. Either they're lax with paperwork or would have introduced an additional non-compliance to be picked up on subsequent EICRs.

 

[timhoward]

Quite unprofessional to quote for the fitting of Wylex protective devices in a Hager board. Either they're lax with paperwork or would have introduced an additional non-compliance to be picked up on subsequent EICRs.

That was my first reaction. Then I spotted "new consumer unit" so wondered if they were intending to change the lot.
It's sad that people earn a living by misleading people, ripping people off, and mis-using legislation intended to simply ensure things are safe for tenants.
Equally, great the OP fought back and got this sorted. A nice change for one of these threads to end up with a good result.

 

[littlespark]

Its good to see we are all singing from the same song sheet.

Its nice when everyone on the forum agrees, and there's no agro between opinions.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Having just been doing some surfing on Hager stuff, it seems that rather annoyingly their AFDD MCB's are double width, whereas their AFDD RCBO's are single. So anyone with a split board that needs modifying is totally stuffed unless you happen to have a load of spare ways and an installer with the skills and spares kit to modify it around.

They have bought out single module AFDDs now:

Hager ARR932U AFDD RCBO 32 Amp ARC Fault Detection Device

Hager ARR932U AFDD RCBO 32 Amp ARC Fault Detection Device. Thousands of Hager consumer units devices & accessories available with next day delivery. Order online now

www.consumerunitworld.co.uk

 

[pc1966]

They have bought out single module AFDDs now:

Hager ARR932U AFDD RCBO 32 Amp ARC Fault Detection Device

Hager ARR932U AFDD RCBO 32 Amp ARC Fault Detection Device. Thousands of Hager consumer units devices & accessories available with next day delivery. Order online now

www.consumerunitworld.co.uk

Its a dual RCD board, so putting in the AFDD/RCBO modules would really need another busbar segment so they are not off one of the RCDs.

Hager do an AFDD add-on for MCB, etc, that make double width if you needed arc-detection without residual current. I can't see many cases where that would be likely!

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Its a dual RCD board, so putting in the AFDD/RCBO modules would really need another busbar segment so they are not off one of the RCDs.

Personally, I would fit them on the RCD anyway, unless the customer particularly wanted them off it (and was happy to pay for it). Not ideal, but 2 RCDs in series, both in the same location, not a problem IMO

 

[pc1966]

Personally, I would fit them on the RCD anyway, unless the customer particularly wanted them off it (and was happy to pay for it). Not ideal, but 2 RCDs in series, both in the same location, not a problem IMO

Agreed, it is not dangerous, just not great "design" as you still have the risk of accumulated leakage tripping the RCD in spite of having coughed £120 or so per AFDD.

I don't know the Hager commercial boards well so don't know if you could just get a new section of busbar and extend the main switch L for the AFDD. As single-module they should fit after removing the MCBs, just the practicality of shuffling along and having the non-RCD bus to feed them.

 

[Midwest]

Hijack; is there a test methodology for AFDD's now, or just its self test? Just curious.