Do you need to PAT test / test fixed appliances

[Dozer 73]

Read through the link in one of above threads , code of practise for in service inspection and testing of electrical equipment
It would involve disconnecting in spur say and test with adapter to you pat test machine , that way it gets stored with all your other equipments information if you have an advanced pat tester
Or old school , ins res test and earth cont , visual , but keep records of tests , model test sheets are in the book
Basically a real ball ache , something we are avoiding , keeps you in work I suppose

Oh and apparently if your testing a microwave oven you are supposed to also have microwave leakage detector and test this too , something else we as a company overlooked

 

[Dozer 73]

Not statutory, but highly recommended to use it for guidance.

Most company’s now a days will probably state you work to these codes of practises , ours does a long list in our electrical group rules
They do issue us with these documents (some where in the van )
If there is a fire or death through electric shock created by an appliance / equipment I’m sure the house will be looking for you maintanance / test sheets for this appliance / equipment
Including mechanical inspection sheets if required by whom ever

 

[Toneyz]

Read through the link in one of above threads , code of practise for in service inspection and testing of electrical equipment
It would involve disconnecting in spur say and test with adapter to you pat test machine , that way it gets stored with all your other equipments information if you have an advanced pat tester
Or old school , ins res test and earth cont , visual , but keep records of tests , model test sheets are in the book
Basically a real ball ache , something we are avoiding , keeps you in work I suppose

I refer to your line about "old school method this is what we are doing as part of a EICR, what's the difference ?.

 

[Dozer 73]

I refer to your line about "old school method this is what we are doing as part of a EICR, what's the difference ?.

It’s the way the records are kept or ours any way on hand written sheets and the two basic tests and visual carried out
A modern testing machine stores all information , serial no’s , carries out leakage tests , carries out live functional test and stores load etc
And then prints you a cert if client requires one or your self for records

 

[Dozer 73]

Most company’s now a days will probably state you work to these codes of practises , ours does a long list in our electrical group rules
They do issue us with these documents (some where in the van )
If there is a fire or death through electric shock created by an appliance / equipment I’m sure the house will be looking for you maintanance / test sheets for this appliance / equipment
Including mechanical inspection sheets if required by whom ever

HSE not house

 

[Pete999]

Got to agree the word PAT has confused the situation not just to us but the general public. Apart from any appliance with a plug on it ,please give me an idea how practically the testing is undertaken for example a wall mounted hand dryer ,heater and trouser press in hotel room.

Read the CoP I sent you, and use your ingenuity

 

[Pete999]

Got to agree the word PAT has confused the situation not just to us but the general public. Apart from any appliance with a plug on it ,please give me an idea how practically the testing is undertaken for example a wall mounted hand dryer ,heater and trouser press in hotel room.

Ant, the old PA Testing has gone, its a different animal now large electrical items have become a test item. but you have to agree these items connected via a 13Amp spur unit are NOT part of an EICR, they are the same sort of test IR earth, continuity, and functional, but as a separate testing regime, and should be costed, planned and carried out as such.

 

[Dozer 73]

It’s the way the records are kept or ours any way on hand written sheets and the two basic tests and visual carried out
A modern testing machine stores all information , serial no’s , carries out leakage tests , carries out live functional test and stores load etc
And then prints you a cert if client requires one or your self for records

Well fixed equipment is not a portable appliance so as such cannot be Portable Appliance Tested

it was portable before you fixed it , no I did say /fixed too on original thread , good answer though lol

 

[Pete999]

it was portable before you fixed it , no I did say /fixed too on original thread , good answer though lol

That's why it aint called PA Testing any more, Westy

 

[Dozer 73]

It’s the way the records are kept or ours any way on hand written sheets and the two basic tests and visual carried out
A modern testing machine stores all information , serial no’s , carries out leakage tests , carries out live functional test and stores load etc
And then prints you a cert if client requires one or your self for records

Well fixed equipment is not a portable appliance so as such cannot be Portable Appliance Tested

it was portable before you fixed it , no I did say /fixed too on original thread , good answer though lol

That's why it aint called PA Testing any more, Westy

and what a mind numbing job it is too