Formula 1

[SYKRAPS]

Good Evening All,

After the display at the weekend in the Gran Prix and team orders I find it difficult to understand how if a driver does or does not pass another car under the instruction of his team management when it is within his capabilities how this is not construed as 'Match Rigging'.

If people are wagering money on the outcome how is this a fair reflection of what could have been?

Is allowing a team mate to pass you because you are told to or staying behind a team mate because you are told to not comparable to deliberately letting a goal in at football thus influencing a result?????

I have this gripe because I had money on Rosberg to Podium........and I think it stinks.

What do you guys think?

 

[Silly Sausage]

Sport is totally corrupt as everything else!
Get a grip mate.

 

[dan86]

oddly, I agree with you both!

 

[SYKRAPS]

Sport is totally corrupt as everything else!
Get a grip mate.

So you agree but I need to get a grip????????????

I am lost by your reply tbh.

 

[Sharpend]

Accept it and don't gamble on it!

 

[Guest55]

they ( the f1 teams / FIA ) were supposed to have outlawed team orders several seasons ago for the greater good of an open race.
clearly not.

bring back the days of mansell , senna , lauder et all
it was less about the car and more about the driver , twas a golden age for f1 ;-)

 

[trev]

Anyone reckon Webber will be off like a dirty shirt?

 

[Octopus]

Bring back the coverage to BBC - free for all to watch and not lining Sky's pockets.

Sweden took F1 to pay to view a long time back and now almost nobody watches it any more.

 

[trev]

The thing is Murdoch some sort of subscription service is generally a "must have" these days. As long as it's popular your namesake Rupert will want to keep it.

 

[Octopus]

The thing is Murdoch some sort of subscription service is generally a "must have" these days. As long as it's popular your namesake Rupert will want to keep it.

Won't be in my house!

Twas looking at European feeds to watch whilst listening to R5LSX!

 

[Guest55]

do you remember when itv had f1 for a year or 2
commercial breaks in the middle of a live race ??
schumaker overtaking damon hill interupted by daz automatic wash powder ads lol.
it was pityful to watch , almost comical in its pathetic broadcast.

 

[trev]

I agree, we've only got sky in because it's cheap with the bundled phone and internet. If it weren't for that I think we'd bin it and just cherry pick from what's streamed.

 

[SYKRAPS]

Accept it and don't gamble on it!

Not really the point, if the drivers were not given orders by the team Rosberg would have finished on the podium 'more than likely'

I remember something similar in a The Ryder Cup at The K Club when everyone halved their matches after Europe holed the winning putt no matter what their match score was........I just think its wrong that a miss result IMO goes down in the history books especially when people have money on the events

 

[ruston]

they ( the f1 teams / FIA ) were supposed to have outlawed team orders several seasons ago for the greater good of an open race.
clearly not.

bring back the days of mansell , senna , lauder et all
it was less about the car and more about the driver , twas a golden age for f1 ;-)

Team orders have been back for about three or four seasons now, most of the top teams allow their drivers to race until one driver has the clear edge over the other for final points. Remember when Vettel and Webber took each other off about three seasons ago, cost them a one two if I remember right.

I don't think it's right , but it is a team sport , and strategy is a big part of the game.

 

[Guest55]

write to bernie eccleston for your money back.
or just stop moaning that you lost money on a sport renowned for tactical victories.
;-)

 

[Silly Sausage]

So you agree but I need to get a grip????????????

I am lost by your reply tbh.

I'm tired and I'm slightly lost with your original question, but anyway...
Do you really think these big players give a flying ---- for your average punter?
No chance! You're talking multi million dollar deals here, they'll be bending the 'rules' which ever way suits them.
Remember when team orders weren't allowed and Schumacher passed Barrichello...

 

[SYKRAPS]

OK from another point then with team strategy................Its week 2 it is hardly showing fairness to the drivers.

How do they ask the current champion to stay in 2nd position (although he ignored this I know) when as he proved he was better than Webber on the day?

 

[ruston]

I'm tired and I'm slightly lost with your original question, but anyway...
Do you really think these big players give a flying ---- for your average punter?
No chance! You're talking multi million dollar deals here, they'll be bending the 'rules' which ever way suits them.
Remember when team orders weren't allowed and Schumacher passed Barrichello...

Or this one ------

BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Renault handed suspended F1 ban

 

[SYKRAPS]

I'm tired and I'm slightly lost with your original question, but anyway...
Do you really think these big players give a flying ---- for your average punter?
No chance! You're talking multi million dollar deals here, they'll be bending the 'rules' which ever way suits them.
Remember when team orders weren't allowed and Schumacher passed Barrichello...

Lol Archy it was a Rant not a question really mate

 

[Silly Sausage]

Or this one ------

BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Renault handed suspended F1 ban

They obviously screwed up there and got found out!
Notice, a suspended sentence. ie slap on the wrist

Lol Archy it was a Rant not a question really mate

I'm in rant mode these days as well! hahaha!

 

[ruston]

Aye old Flavio carried the can for that one , and Piquet was history.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

Rosberg was saying he was faster, but the team had told Lewis to turn down his engine and save fuel. Had rosberg kept pushing he would have most likely been in the same position considering the cars would have been similarly fuelled.

 

[markc123]

Anyone see Kubica's latest crash lol? That guy loves a crash.

 

[ruston]

Rosberg was saying he was faster, but the team had told Lewis to turn down his engine and save fuel. Had rosberg kept pushing he would have most likely been in the same position considering the cars would have been similarly fuelled.

Yes they could of both ended up losing position, or not enough fuel left for an end of race inspection and received grid penalty at next race.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Another two reasons I'm in a bad mood, missed the first two GPs and a mates women friend is gradually turning me into a plumber!
How much do you charge to replace a thermo rad valve and fit a new radiator?!?!?!

 

[markc123]

Another two reasons I'm in a bad mood, missed the first two GPs and a mates women friend is gradually turning me into a plumber!
How much do you charge to replace a thermo rad valve and fit a new radiator?!?!?!

CODE C1.

Dismissed.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

No one likes to see team orders but while there is a constructors championship and a drivers it is going to be part and parcel of f1.

Especially as all the £££ is in the constructors title.

 

[Silly Sausage]

CODE C1.

She is quite good looking, so immediate action is probably the correct diagnosis.

 

[markc123]

Ahh fair enough, i understand now Archy...a decent bird - the plumber talk is logical now and i'll let you off the hook

 

[drew35]

I think we all know if Schumacher gets a chance to shaft Webber, team orders or not, he's going to do it.

Vettel sorry!

Vettel isn't it..... Getting harder to tell those two apart....

Why didn't Webber just park his car on top of Schumachers head at the end? Then just get out and hand his steering wheel, and his overalls to Red Bull? (Vettel Sorry)

Or on the podium just smash Schumachers head in with his Magnum of fizzy wine? (Vettel sorry)

Are those two related? Father and son maybe???

 

[UNG]

Betting on Formula 1 is fraught with problems as there will always be the race fixing argument

From Sundays race I can understand the reasons for the orders the teams made in terms of equipment preservation relating to engines and gearboxes especially with only eight engines to run 19 or as the season was provisionally posted 20 races that along with the tyre degradation the finishing order was set long before the chequered flag except for the arrogance of one weasel

F1 is now one race with 19 or 20 parts, cars are pulled out of some of the individual races so they can change parts carry out mods without penalty in the next or just turn everything down and cruise to the next race with unduly stressing parts of the car

Vettel has done more damage to his credibility than he can repair disregarding the teams orders actually shows how much of a team player he isn't and he has the prospect now of when he needs team orders to help him Webber may not be so co-operative or even take him off the track

 

[Octopus]

Betting on Formula 1 is fraught with problems as there will always be the race fixing argument

From Sundays race I can understand the reasons for the orders the teams made in terms of equipment preservation relating to engines and gearboxes especially with only eight engines to run 19 or as the season was provisionally posted 20 races that along with the tyre degradation the finishing order was set long before the chequered flag except for the arrogance of one weasel

F1 is now one race with 19 or 20 parts, cars are pulled out of some of the individual races so they can change parts carry out mods without penalty in the next or just turn everything down and cruise to the next race with unduly stressing parts of the car

Vettel has done more damage to his credibility than he can repair disregarding the teams orders actually shows how much of a team player he isn't and he has the prospect now of when he needs team orders to help him Webber may not be so co-operative or even take him off the track

I do wonder if he really regrets what he did!

 

[UNG]

I do wonder if he really regrets what he did!

Doubt it he is a German the same as Schumacher never showed any regrets with what he did

Vettel has got away with a lot in his F1 racing career to date and this incident will only prove to him that he can continue to push the boundaries even further before he gets slapped down

 

[ian.settle1]

This should lighten the mood

 

[ruston]

View attachment 18094This should lighten the mood

Lol a Freudian pit.