Joining existing cooker cable

[ipf]

Wago do 6mm connectors but I dont think 2x 6mm cables will fit into a wagobox. Crimp or solder connections.

Put them in an pvc adaptable box, then.

 

[Andy78]

Wago do a MF connectors rated to 41 amps: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1782747.pdf

They are only rated for MF when used within their Wagobox enclosures, a type tested thing I think.
You're never getting 2 x 6mm twins in one of those boxes though.

 

[Pete999]

Put them in an adaptable box, then.

Will that still be considered MF ipf? like the idea, but just questioning the vaugeries of the rules.

 

[Strima]

They are only rated for MF when used within their Wagobox enclosures, a type tested thing I think.
You're never getting 2 x 6mm twins in one of those boxes though.

This is the problem with manufacturers, there’s not many options for larger size cable above 2.5mm.

I’ve done 3x 2.5mm in one of the Wago boxes and it was a little tight. Good kit just needs a little bit more flexibility.

We need those Line black egg things to be manufactured again.

 

[Moley]

I would be tempted to solder, double heat shrink each joint, another shrink over the two together and then put in suitable box.

 

[cliffed]

If the cable is there,then extend it with appropriate connection box.
It’s really no different using a cooker outlet connection to cooker.

 

[Andy78]

This is the problem with manufacturers, there’s not many options for larger size cable above 2.5mm.

I’ve done 3x 2.5mm in one of the Wago boxes and it was a little tight. Good kit just needs a little bit more flexibility.

We need those Line black egg things to be manufactured again.

Really miss the Line eggs. I still have a couple rattling about somewhere.

 

[Strima]

Really miss the Line eggs. I still have a couple rattling about somewhere.

I have a stash somewhere, buggered if I can remember where though.

 

[ipf]

Will that still be considered MF ipf? like the idea, but just questioning the vaugeries of the rules.

That's the thing, Pete, stupid, vague rules. I'd feel much better with something solid, with good connections and wouldn't have any problems. eg. I still use 20amp JB's for recessed fittings....remove the fitting for access.....why not if you're working on it?

 

[Nebu1a]

I agree that the 20 amp junction boxes are accessible. However they have no cable restraint and are meant to be fixed in place.

 

[westward10]

Not deemed a suitable luminaire coupler according to 7671 either

 

[ipf]

I agree that the 20 amp junction boxes are accessible. However they have no cable restraint and are meant to be fixed in place.

Install them well and properly and the cables won't move. Plenty just can't do it.....from what I find.
The main reason for MF (besides money issues) is bad installation practice.

 

[westward10]

Have a gander at Reg 559.5.1 to see what are correct luminaire couplers.

 

[ipf]

Have a gander at Reg 559.5.1 to see what are correct luminaire couplers.

With respect. Have a gander at some I did forty odd years back.....not the slightest problem and never had any.

 

[SJD]

I needed to join a cooker circuit today, due to moving a consumer unit. I used a Wago IP68 box, which is rated up to 41A (with appropriate connectors).

I put two glands for T&E in one of the flat sides. The box is somewhat overkill for where it was going (bungalow loft) but was fairly quick to fit.

Screwfix sell them, see: https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/wagobox-ip68-junction-box/7553R

 

[Andy78]

I needed to join a cooker circuit today, due to moving a consumer unit. I used a Wago IP68 box, which is rated up to 41A (with appropriate connectors).
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I put two glands for T&E in one of the flat sides. The box is somewhat overkill for where it was going (bungalow loft) but was fairly quick to fit.

Screwfix sell them, see: https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/wagobox-ip68-junction-box/7553R

60A Click coffin would have been good for that job

60A Junction Box - https://www.toolstation.com/60a-junction-box/p98775

 

[SJD]

60A Click coffin would have been good for that job

60A Junction Box - https://www.toolstation.com/60a-junction-box/p98775

I happened to have some of the Wago IP68 boxes, but perhaps I should keep one of these 60A boxes in my supplies for next time.

 

[clematis432]

I needed to join a cooker circuit today, due to moving a consumer unit. I used a Wago IP68 box, which is rated up to 41A (with appropriate connectors).
View attachment 47415
I put two glands for T&E in one of the flat sides. The box is somewhat overkill for where it was going (bungalow loft) but was fairly quick to fit.

Screwfix sell them, see: https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/wagobox-ip68-junction-box/7553R

Best post so far for good advice IHO, think thats the way I,ll go. Appreciate all replies.

 

[freddo]

Really miss the Line eggs. I still have a couple rattling about somewhere.

Got any photos? Not a product I know but the name rings a bell.

 

[haj]

Wago do 6mm connectors but I dont think 2x 6mm cables will fit into a wagobox. Crimp or solder connections.

Yep wagos and wago box