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What access gear do others use when working at height , and how high would you deem it safe to still work from a ladder ?
Also whats the worst case of daft and dangerous behaviour that you have come across by other people working at height .:38:
A picture speaks a thousand words. Big ladders
Just posted on another thread but is still relevant to this one as well
Just to clear this up - as I used to deliver training on working at heights
If you are self employed: You must ensure you are competent in using the equipment that your planning to use
If your are employed: Your employer has a duty of care and it is down to them to ensure you are competent in using the equipment that your planning to use
Only the employer (employed)/individual (S/E) can decide what training you need.
The customer can also put restrictions in place as they are the ones who are paying for the job.
The HSE will look at it and decide have you/your employer taken all possible steps to prevent this accident as far as reasonably practicable
If the employer has taken all steps and the employee has failed their duty to care for themselves then the employee is to blame
If the answer is yes then your in the clear
If the answer is no then you need to have a good reason and explain yourself to the court if required
A fine will be issued if you fail (above)
Your insurance will not pay out if you have not taken all steps as far as reasonably practicable same as in an employed and S/E basis
The best way is to do a written risk assessment and that will fine line any potential problems - also have next to the suggested actions if it is viable and if not why not - the HSE will look at this and usually clear any charges.
Just dont over look the obvious things as that wont impress the HSE and Insurance
I can provide risk assessments tailored to each individual need if required, but at a fee!
Just posted on another thread but is still relevant to this one as well
Just to clear this up - as I used to deliver training on working at heights
If you are self employed: You must ensure you are competent in using the equipment that your planning to use
If your are employed: Your employer has a duty of care and it is down to them to ensure you are competent in using the equipment that your planning to use
Only the employer (employed)/individual (S/E) can decide what training you need.
The customer can also put restrictions in place as they are the ones who are paying for the job.
The HSE will look at it and decide have you/your employer taken all possible steps to prevent this accident as far as reasonably practicable
If the employer has taken all steps and the employee has failed their duty to care for themselves then the employee is to blame
If the answer is yes then your in the clear
If the answer is no then you need to have a good reason and explain yourself to the court if required
A fine will be issued if you fail (above)
Your insurance will not pay out if you have not taken all steps as far as reasonably practicable same as in an employed and S/E basis
The best way is to do a written risk assessment and that will fine line any potential problems - also have next to the suggested actions if it is viable and if not why not - the HSE will look at this and usually clear any charges.
Just dont over look the obvious things as that wont impress the HSE and Insurance
I can provide risk assessments tailored to each individual need if required, but at a fee!
A picture speaks a thousand words.
Donkeys years ago, when I was about 17, i was working with my old fella at a rugby stadium removing a big, old, round, metal reflected light fitting from half way up the spion kop. With help from a member of the groundstaff, a player, big lad who shall remain unnamed, we got the ladder up into position. The old man went up, at least 40ft, I footed on the terracing. He disconnected and after about 10mins, with ladder boucing back and forth, managed to loosen the rusty old chain fixings. He swung the weight and shouted to keep clear below. Our helper shouted ''Drop it mate, I'll catch it'' to which echoed from above ''**** off you daft ****''. It came down and took a big chunk of concrete off the terracing. Needless to say, if our helper, with his massive hands, had made an attempt at that partcular 'bomb' there would have been a spare seat on the plane for the up and comming tour of Australia and NZ.Many moons ago a fellow contractor called me and asked if I could give him an hand and bring my mobile tower with me. ok says I.
So gets to site it was at Kent International airport before it was that, and he was in a storage building. Job turned out to be this and that, but it appeared Siemans had installed a new fangled, CCTV system, and in them days CCTV was new fangled, and one of the cameras had failed, and was being replaced.
Any way this building must have been 20-25 metres easy and his 6x4 mobile was fully built, and never even reached half way, he had the 10mt working height platform one.
So I get I need yours Malc to extend into the apex for siemans ............so off loaded mine and off we go so now we are putting mine on top of his .................we are half way doing this and I'm now getting Squeaky B time. Builds it and there we are I reckon we are 19mts on this thing, and 19 metres is a long way, and every movement she is swaying as if in a gale. I gets down and up turns Siemans, who takes one look at this and pales, your joking we get.
After much discussions, and a few more your joking, over steps mate, "his offered us a score to change the broken camera", "as he I say". So now i'm thinking your joking ................so off we go pushing this monster over to the broken camera,Siemans gets the unit and up goes my mate ................down comes my mate and walks over to the van, where he gets out a 7 tread step ladder.
"Malc just a gnats too short, give us an hand" Up we go, this bitch is swaying like a drunk on Saturday. with us lugging up a wooden step ladder. Finally on top of this thing, and breathing is swaying this tower, mate opens up ladder and up he goes, so we are now on top of a double extened tower, me holding on for grim death, my mate is another 8-9 feet up on a step ladder, changing a camera.
We have now got us a crowd, Siemans is having a smoke and a couple of the lads are shouting up, how long lads there's an artic in any minute, I'm sort of bricking it my mate is tugging at this broken camera, and of course we are swaying back and forth.....................finally new fitted and down we come, I have never felt so relieved. Mate have a ciggie, over comes siemans, "lads this shroud needs to go over the connections" not sure if Siemans ever heard more profound language but suffice to say it never got it, and my mate never did give me half of that score
NO THANK YOU!!!
I felt sick just watching them
Just read Malcolms epic climb and it reminded me of this one I have seen posted on this forum in the past
Now this is what I call working at heights,not your H+S death defying 3 rung ladder act :snore: , but real life safety climbing without the H+S freaks hanging on to our coat tails
Now I would love to shin up this turkey
massive climb up antenna station - YouTube
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