NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

[Sparky10]

Hi Guys,

A debate at work and im slightly confused and thought maybe someone here may shed some light.

What is the point in doing your 2391 Testing course? Apparently to be NIC Registered you do not need to have 2391 Inspection & Testing & You are able to sign work off.
However if you have your 2391 you are still unable to sign work off as your are not NIC Registered?

It seems all a bit backward if you ask me how can you be unqualified and sign work off? but maybe there is truth in what i am being told.

If so why do the 2391 when you could sign up to NIC for less then half the price.

Thanks Guys

 

[Taylortwocities]

Is 2391 still a C&G course?

 

[Dillb]

Is 2391 still a C&G course?

Yes they have reintroduced it, but as always it been dumbed down a little I believe its even a open book exam now. Although the numers after the 2391 have changed so you can tell which course people have done.

 

[Dillb]

Your 2391 will prove competence, while the NICEIC will.......no better not dont want to be banned this early into my return.

 

[Andy78]

Same reason to take any course, to improve your understanding of a particular subject and to be able to prove that to others.

You can test and issue certificates with a possession of basic competence, the kind that is gained during normal training to be an electrician.

Joining a competent persons scheme would facilitate the notification of work to building control.

Depends what you mean by "sign off"

The 2391 is the current course code used by City and guilds. It's basically the 2394/5 renamed and made open book examinations.

 

[Octopus]

Just to be clear the NIC aren't the only scheme:

Napit
Stroma
BSI
Elecsa (NIC)
NIC

.....

 

[Rpa07]

Your 2391 will prove competence, while the NICEIC will.......no better not dont want to be banned this early into my return.

Welcome back Dillb, how about putting that face of yours back on the avatar?

 

[Dillb]

Welcome back Dillb, how about putting that face of yours back on the avatar?

I will do, just need to find a updated picture of my ugly mush.

 

[Sparky10]

Just to be clear the NIC aren't the only scheme:

Napit
Stroma
BSI
Elecsa (NIC)
NIC

.....

I am aware of all the schemes, Just NIC is most recognized so i mentioned them to make the thread straight forward. But thanks

 

[Wilko]

... It seems all a bit backward if you ask me how can you be unqualified and sign work off? but maybe there is truth in what i am being told...

If I understand correctly, to do electrical work in accord with BS7671 one needs to be competent. So the qualification is "competence". What is competence, I hear you ask? Being assessed and accepted by a Competent Persons Scheme is one measure perhaps ( ). I can't speak for the Nice Guys, but with my mob they judge competence for EICR is shown when you have practical evidences and a training qualification (2391 for example).