First electric shock

[James-]

Every spark I've met so far said it's happened to them..some numerous times..I wasn't expecting the response I got..thought I'd get maybe...it could of been that..or this etc..I know all about safe isolation and if it's my job I'd have the lights off..it's not my job so..... anyway..I appreciate all that advice
I think it's quite easy for a qualified spark to say I should do this or that but when I tried a year to get employed and now finally are..and getting put through an apprenticeship too...I don't want to do anything to mess it up

You sound like your listening and ignoring. No offence meant at all matey but this really should be a wake up call!

Your Boss Is a complete and utter A ( H 0 L E ) If he tries to make you keep working live.
Did you tell your boss? If so what did he say?
I wouldn't be surprised if you were too proud to tell him or were worried about what he would say or do etc.

Honestly It is not worth it! Let him risk his own skin not yours!

The Industry is picking up now and their are more jobs out there all the time but I appreciate it still favours the employer and It can be hard to find work but just think about how your family would feel If you weren't around to try !

 

[R G]

Fair play Chris , one thing I would say is yes its happened to all of us because its what we work with , but only by accident , not by knowing full well that we hadn't isolated before working on something , accidents do and always will happen , trying to minimise them is what we have to do , but purposefully creating them is something else ..just tread carefully and take in any learning you can but keep in mind the fundamentals of what your working on .

 

[Pete999]

Chris Safe Isolation Simulator ["Electrical Jobs" / Electrician / "Electrical Training"] - YouTube

 

[nickblake]

Nah I know .point taken Nick and tomorrow when I'm continuing where I left off..the circuit will be dead..they will just have to live with it

Spot on mate !! I really hate to be blunt mate , if you really look at it you could loose your life , the boss gets done for unlawfull killing and gets 6 months , stick to your guns mate circuit off, isolated , locked off , you live and prove a point ,

 

[Pete999]

Spot on mate !! I really hate to be blunt mate , if you really look at it you could loose your life , the boss gets done for unlawfull killing and gets 6 months , stick to your guns mate circuit off, isolated , locked off , you live and prove a point ,

Chris http://www.hseni.gov.uk/hsg85_electricity_at_work_-_safe_working_practices.pdfshow

 

[shanky887614]

###It doesnt matter where you work power can always be isolated, ive worked i hospitals even to the operating theaters it can always be isolated its just a matter of communication and planning , if you are doing as I have read you are, then why dont you load a gun with a bullet and keep pulling the trigger every day because one day it will go off as with electric one day it will get you,I hate to be abrupt but I would also hate to read of a spark being electrocuted due to lack of safe isolation caused by lack of communication and common sense

a lot of our work is low power usually 12 or 24v so no danger.

and we are talking doors etc as well here, ok so you would shutdown a whole floor+ for one door because you wouldn't disconect a couple cables in a panel?

 

[nickblake]

a lot of our work is low power usually 12 or 24v so no danger.

and we are talking doors etc as well here, ok so you would shutdown a whole floor+ for one door because you wouldn't disconect a couple cables in a panel?

Not live i wouldnt !!!!

 

[Pete999]

Chris View attachment Best-Practice-Guide-2.pdf

 

[GMES]

If you want a serious shock, try waking up next to our lass without make up argggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Pete999]

I see the thread has lost it's meaning all of a sudden lol:smile5:

 

[Kamikaze]

If you want a serious shock, try waking up next to our lass without make up argggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It is strange how men always wake up as good looking as they did when they went to bed but women somehow deteriorate during the night. :smile5:

 

[uksparks]

I was told holding the connector is safe...the store won't have power off

Am I supposed to refuse to work then when the main guy says hold the connector block....genuine question

Check out regulation 14 of the EAWR. I appreciate you have taken instruction from someone who should know better, but you should never work live. Live generally means risky and potentially dangerous, it's not worth it. You being the one working on the circuit should really have had it locked off and a key on your person fir your own lock in the hasp.

learn from your experience and dont do it again.

 

[GMES]

I see the thread has lost it's meaning all of a sudden lol:smile5:

You are correct pete sorry I will get back on track, but you should see her ffs :38:

 

[shanky887614]

It is strange how men always wake up as good looking as they did when they went to bed but women somehow deteriorate during the night. :smile5:

yeah they shift from a 5 pinter to a 10 pinter in the morning

 

[Silly Sausage]

You are correct pete sorry I will get back on track, but you should see her ffs :38:

You could update your avatar picture! :smilielol5:

 

[Pete999]

You are correct pete sorry I will get back on track, but you should see her ffs :38:

Got one of my own thanks, not a pretty sight first thing are they?

 

[davesparks]

real? there are times when you cannot turn the power off, it is best practise to not touch copper unless you know its not connected to anything.

if you are working in a control panel you cant just turn them off because it can cause very bad consequences.
we work in hospitals/ metal wards etc and there not places that can be done out of hours

But the places you work will surely have procedures in place to ensure you are working safely and that the patients are kept safe.
I can't imagine they don't operate a permit to work system?

 

[Marvo]

My thoughts are pretty much as Trev said

Yes! When there is a means of isolation then it should be used unless there are incredibly good reason not to. The store owner not wanting the place dark is not a good reason.
How would he/she/the company have reacted if you had been blown off whatever you were standing on and injured yourself or been killed? With the HSE crawling all over them and your employer that excuse would not wash.
Get your gaffer to rig some temporary lighting so that you get to go home at the end of the day, not to a hospital or mortuary. You're a trainee, you probably don't want to question your employer or rock the boat by going against what those above you in the food chain say but for your own sake mate tell this clown that what he's asking you to do is dangerous

Working live should never be a convenience thing, only as an absolute necessity and only if competent to do so and only following a thorough risk assessment and only with the correct equipment and safety procedures in place.

 

[jaypp]

Hi Chris. Agree with previous post re. safe working practices although, we've all (I guess) been guilty at some point. If the lights need to be on, can you not isolate, disconnect at a point, leaving some to give light and then work on next few, livening up a few at a time? You will become used to everyone moaning about losing power or lighting, but as said in prev post there are ways e.g. temp lights, run a lead etc. Just say sorry, we can't work live it's a danger to me, you and anyone else who enters your premises.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Just thought Chris, what did anyone say when you killed the lights?
And if they did, what were their comments about the fact that they went off because you nearly electrocuted yourself?