Hager Metal Consumer Units

[Sparkie30]

No wonder a lot of you have thousands of post. All you do is bang on about same stupid stuff. Well off topic.

 

[jackhammerJIM]

Absolute rubbish. There has also been a 400% rise in traffic wardens.

Did somebody say traffic wardens ...

[video=youtube;pPIr46MLZag]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPIr46MLZag[/video]

 

[Tommy C]

Bit late here... I do like the new Hager Design range. Previously we installed the Hager insulated range for domestic jobs as they are self extinguishing. I set fire to an MK insulated enclosure a while ago on purpose and when it got going it really went up.

The two things that I thought were responsible for the increase in fires are:

1. Rubbish quality switchgear. e.g. Volex recalls etc...
2. Incorrect / poor installation, we always terminate boards with a torque screwdriver.

It does stagger me the amount of dangerous and non compliant work carried out and the price some people will carry work out for (easy to make things work, difficult to make safe and compliant). Then they probably haven't spent £100.00 on a torque screwdriver!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Bit late here... I do like the new Hager Design range. Previously we installed the Hager insulated range for domestic jobs as they are self extinguishing. I set fire to an MK insulated enclosure a while ago on purpose and when it got going it really went up.

The two things that I thought were responsible for the increase in fires are:

1. Rubbish quality switchgear. e.g. Volex recalls etc...
2. Incorrect / poor installation, we always terminate boards with a torque screwdriver.

It does stagger me the amount of dangerous and non compliant work carried out and the price some people will carry work out for (easy to make things work, difficult to make safe and compliant). Then they probably haven't spent £100.00 on a torque screwdriver!

You don't need a torque screwdriver IMO, I've Been fine for years without one. I agree that shyte quality is a major contribution.

 

[Tommy C]

You don't need a torque screwdriver IMO, I've Been fine for years without one. I agree that shyte quality is a major contribution.

Truesay, but it's the best way to show someone how tight to do things up (especially if they are a bit weak wristed) and at least you are covering yourself.

Also it's the only mcb driver blade I have and fits the terminals lovely.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Truesay, but it's the best way to show someone how tight to do things up (especially if they are a bit weak wristed) and at least you are covering yourself.

Also it's the only mcb driver blade I have and fits the terminals lovely.

Do you find the manufacturers recommended torque setting can sometimes be to tight?

 

[Tommy C]

Not generally, but they do vary.

 

[D Skelton]

Given the considerable in depth research you have undertaken on the subject of this new 'requirement' please can you direct me to the evidence that has come to light that these CU fires are caused by Electrical Trainee? I ask out of genuine interest not as provocation. I still maintain that statistics can be manipulated read whatever a person wants. Politicians do it all the time.

Like I have said a thousand bloody times, there is no 'direct' evidence, however the numbers are clear to see for anyone who isn't burying their head in the sand!

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fire-statistics-great-britain-2013-to-2014

Do the research yourself. All the relevant numbers are there, no figure manipulation either.

Notice how fires caused by electrical distribution in dwellings is on a very very slow decline until 2005, the year that Part P was introduced, then notice a sharp rise.

I suppose this is just coincidence right?! I suppose the manufacturers just decided to start making their gear rubbish in 2005 and that's the cause right?!

Come on man, take your bleedin' blinkers off will you!

 

[UNG]

Bit late here... I do like the new Hager Design range. Previously we installed the Hager insulated range for domestic jobs as they are self extinguishing. I set fire to an MK insulated enclosure a while ago on purpose and when it got going it really went up.

The two things that I thought were responsible for the increase in fires are:

1. Rubbish quality switchgear. e.g. Volex recalls etc...
2. Incorrect / poor installation, we always terminate boards with a torque screwdriver.

It does stagger me the amount of dangerous and non compliant work carried out and the price some people will carry work out for (easy to make things work, difficult to make safe and compliant). Then they probably haven't spent £100.00 on a torque screwdriver!

And how often when that torque driver been dropped is it recalibrated or how many times do you check it's calibration might be a good tool but IMO needs too much ongoing maintenance to provide accurate and repeatable results

 

[Midwest]

Why did Hager provide a back cable entry plate, but nothing for their top & bottom entry boards. Grommet strip I know, but just seems a bit daft. And wholesalers seemed to struggle having in stock standard boards, but here you either have to have a back entry board or a top & bottom one. The Wylex one I've seen, just has standard knockouts. Not saying that's better, but don't think you be able to get a Hager one off the shelves. Hager one looks nicer than the Wylex though.

Just thought I'd try and get thread back on track