Whats this mean on a rcd test

[GMES]

Kurtis the point is though it is the RCD itself that you are testing.

 

[Maxstone89]

Its states the load should be disconnected from the test, basically disconnect anything from sockets ect,
As thats the load, now theres nothing using current (load) it doesn't state it has to be done at the rcd, it actually states between the line conductor of the protected circuit and the associates cpc. Which can mean it can be done on a socket

 

[trev]

Mate, several pretty well respected people on here have told you the correct way to carry out this test. GN3 tells you how to do the test. The MIs will tell you how to do the test.
Why are you clinging to your incorrect method?

 

[GMES]

The load side of the Rcd for me are the terminals at the bottom of the Rcd

 

[Maxstone89]

Which is why i got this result, i left one appliance still connected

 

[trev]

You're not testing the circuit to see if there's a fault path or anything! It's the device you're testing.

 

[Doomed]

I still see that as any load items, not the circuit itself.
My reasoning:
The order of tests as per GN3, dead tests, live tests, with the last test being the RCD test, not test the RCD then connect the circuit and test the circuit.
If you were to disconnect the circuit to test the RCD you would then in theory need to then do the other live tests again to ensure your connections.
The RCD is designed to protect a person from a shock with the circuit connected.

 

[trev]

Oh well, GN3 and MIs are obviously wrong then.

 

[Maxstone89]

I did t say there wrong, theres more methods to alot of testing rather than just one, Im not saying my ways better im just saying if you simple go and replace sockets you don't want to take the board apart unnessessily, though a zs test and rcd test can be done saftley and quickly

 

[Doomed]

I've lost track whom I'm disagreeing with.

 

[Maxstone89]

Also states load side not load terminals.

 

[trev]

you don't want to take the board apart unnessessily, though a zs test and rcd test can be done saftley and quickly

Do you belong to the "no live testing" school of thought? Please explain what is dangerous about live testing.

 

[Doomed]

Right, I am disagreeing with Kurtis, the manufacturers state that the test should be done at the RCD (well, hagar do).

 

[Maxstone89]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. Btw

You can do dead testing with switching off but without opening up the board

 

[Maxstone89]

Fair enough if thats what the mf say. Im not saying their wrong just theres more than one method

 

[trev]

I'm not being sarcastic and it's spelt "wit" but let's not go there eh?
So you've replaced a socket face, how are you going to IR the circuit without taking the CU cover off and disconnecting cables?

 

[trev]

Fair enough if thats what the mf say. Im not saying their wrong just theres more than one method

Yeah, there's the right method and there's every other one.

 

[newtothis]

The geez in this videar seems to be testing at a socket.
https://youtu.be/PfcPDr1SSZ4
I don't know. :bat: The way I was shown was a 3 lead test on the circuit closest to the rcd.
What is right procedure ?

 

[Maxstone89]

What do you have to test between?
Live and earth
N and earth
Live and live
If all the mcbs ect are of you apart from the n - e test you are only testing that circuit. As long as tests are all okay, then all good, if not yes you may have to open up the board.

 

[trev]

Hmmmmm, so what about the N-E test?
Come on mate, think.
My point is that you have to open the CU up and disconnect cables anyway so what's the problem? May as well do all the tests properly as opposed to bodging one of them because it's perceived as being easier/an alternative method which is acceptable. (which it isn't)