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Do you not feel with have enough armed respose teams already for this ,
Nearly all French plod carry semi automatic sidearms, whereas our plod carry a notepad and pencil.
There's also the semi military national plod all over the place in France - did easy access to all that firepower help ?
This is what we nead in this debate to convince people like me that police carrying guns is a good idea, saying that i still feel all the poluce having guns would not stop or prevent terrorismNot long ago our police strugled to control an armed taxi driver in Cumbria. I hope we now have more armed officers Trained to respond quickly.
Yes I think it did they were able to respond quicker and save lives. without them the gunmen could have run wild killing 100s more.
It helped contain them, that's all - to defeat a man with a big stick you need a bigger stick, its just a downward slope of violence back to the wild wild West - that might please the Trump chap, am not sure the threat really warrants that degree of militarisation of the police.
So i'm still waiting to be convinced by some compelling evidence to the contrary.
Without the " Bigger stick" our police would be powerless. Would you tackle a man with a knife,gun or Ak47 without a stick of equal size ? would you expect a police officer to do it?
We are far to soft on terrorists they kill we imprison its time the tables were turned.
Give our police the tools they need to do there job.
The UK police force has always been the envy of the rest of the world, it's a model that many have studied and attempted to implement elsewhere. It's a tiered system with the humble beat bobby at the base and many levels all the way up to flying squads and highly trained and well equipped tactical armed response units. It's a classic case of what you see isn't necessarily what you'll get, if a beat officer requests tactical response it's on the scene in less than a couple of minutes. The beauty of the system is you still have police that interact with the public, they help old ladies across the road and they cuddle babies but not far behind that public-friendly exterior there are teeth, the criminals know it and the beat bobbies rely on it.Without the " Bigger stick" our police would be powerless. Would you tackle a man with a knife,gun or Ak47 without a stick of equal size ? would you expect a police officer to do it?
We are far to soft on terrorists they kill we imprison its time the tables were turned.
Give our police the tools they need to do there job.
So arm all plod with assault rifles? all of them ? all over the Country ?
What happens when they start lobbing a few grenades and pipe bombs around ? - what happens if they just start planting bombs ?
I dread to think how much the above would cost - why aren't we stopping them talking to each other ? stop them getting food and munitions.
they appear to have an endless supply of new Toyota pickups
Throw the numerous hate preachers out with the dirty dishwater, help those prone to radicalisation by giving them a purpose in life
Let's do the effective stuff, not just the visually appeasing stuff that simply panders to our urge for vengeance
The UK police force has always been the envy of the rest of the world, it's a model that many have studied and attempted to implement elsewhere. It's a tiered system with the humble beat bobby at the base and many levels all the way up to flying squads and highly trained and well equipped tactical armed response units. It's a classic case of what you see isn't necessarily what you'll get, if a beat officer requests tactical response it's on the scene in less than a couple of minutes. The beauty of the system is you still have police that interact with the public, they help old ladies across the road and they cuddle babies but not far behind that public-friendly exterior there are teeth, the criminals know it and the beat bobbies rely on it.
How is it better to arm the beat bobbies and lose that interaction with the public? Look at the police in other countries like the US, it's an us and them mentality and I don't mean between the police and the criminals, I mean between the police and the rest of the population.
You can fight fire with water but sometimes you need to fight it with fire.
They have already planted bombs (usually on there chests)
Grenades carn't be thrown once a bullet hits them (tell me another way to stop this)
The Toyota SUVs well Isis control OILFIELDS so they buy them on the black market £££££££ talks
We are doing the other "stuff" also ie Bombing oilfields and supply routes Taking out there infrastructure.
Radicalisation well I dont believe a grown man can be radicalised it must be instilled in them as children (just my oppinion)
And for the record I work with muslims some of which I call friends not just work coleagues. Most blame Isis but some just blame the Americans.
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